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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:27 pm
by McParadigm
B wrote:
McParadigm wrote:A much better argument would be that she made the claim prior to actually investigating it, and the accuracy of it is inconsequential to whether or not she was factually certain of its accuracy at the time.

The rush instead to borrow the language of racial purity is...a bummer.
If your parents said you had ____ ancestry your whole life, would you think twice before putting it on a form? It's not like she called a press conference. People dug through her employment paperwork to find this "claim."
The purpose of a political attack is to be a political attack. Full stop.

So, if one is determined to make an attack of claimed ancestry on a form (which I think is already a stupid mistake, as it really only drums up the racist vote and is completely unrelated to any actual politics of the person being attacked), then I would say that the “She didn’t actually care if it was true” angle is superior to the one that heavily borrows from the language of racial purity.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:29 pm
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:So all these newspapers should have editorialized the story by saying that despite actually having some Native American ancestry, she shouldn't claim it?
you think CNN should bury the little detail (about it being 6 to 10 generations ago) 10 paragraphs in and below the line while the headline reads "strong evidence of Native American ancestry"? On a web page with multiple editorials defending her or attacking Trump over it?

Come the fuck on.

And this practice of mixing editorials with news articles on the front pages has never set right with me. Even if they are clearly marked (which they often aren't). The tactic is obvious. But at least it shows the biases I suppose.
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:She's as native American as the Cleveland Indians. 6 to 10 generations ago does not make you a native, you insane clowns. The issue is of course overblown, but she obviously was a fraud to claim it. Obviously.
What is the correct number of generations one may go back to claim ancestry?
Not around 8, that's for sure.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:29 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:29 pm
by Norah
tragabigzanda wrote:
B wrote:
McParadigm wrote:A much better argument would be that she made the claim prior to actually investigating it, and the accuracy of it is inconsequential to whether or not she was factually certain of its accuracy at the time.

The rush instead to borrow the language of racial purity is...a bummer.
If your parents said you had ____ ancestry your whole life, would you think twice before putting it on a form? It's not like she called a press conference. People dug through her employment paperwork to find this "claim."
Right, but she's also been on the defense for this for way too long. People who are pissed about any semblance -- real or imagine -- of her claiming to have somehow experienced the culture have a valid gripe, as the media has spun this so far beyond what really transpired. She's playing it for headlines now too.
She should have withheld the results and told Trump she'd release them if/when he releases his tax returns.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:30 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:30 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:31 pm
by BurtReynolds
I mean, wtf is this?

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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:31 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
yeah but is Obama a U.S. citizen?!

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:33 pm
by BurtReynolds
E.H. Ruddock wrote:yeah but is Obama a U.S. citizen?!
HE'S A SECRET MUSLIM TERRORIST

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:34 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:I mean, wtf is this?

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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:37 pm
by doug rr
this airbnb stuff is pissing me off

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:44 pm
by BurtReynolds
Will Tom Brady ever get old?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:48 pm
by run2death
BurtReynolds wrote:I mean, wtf is this?

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Did you actually read this before you posted it?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:49 pm
by McParadigm
It is pretty absurd for it to be placed as an A1 story.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:55 pm
by run2death
Judging from today's reaction, I'd say putting it on A1 was a very good call.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:58 pm
by BurtReynolds
run2death wrote:
Did you actually read this before you posted it?
Most people don't read past the headline. or the subheadline. Or click through to the article. They know this.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 8:25 pm
by bune

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 8:30 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 8:39 pm
by The Argonaut
BurtReynolds wrote:I mean, wtf is this?

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I like to pretend that that ticker tape parade is being thrown in response to the Warren test results.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 8:40 pm
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:can someone explain to me the history of the face used for that account? have seen it a ton but don't get the joke
That's her face. She's a comedian I think