Rogan?

[macphisto]

It’s just a word, and we shouldn’t give words the power to ruin lives, especially when the group supposedly harmed by such word violence is allowed to—and often does—throw it around casually with total impunity.

That said, Jorge thought he’d be safe typing such ugliness by nestling it within quotation marks and parenthesis. He was wrong and needs to be cancelled.

[Jorge]

"Supposedly harmed" is an interesting twist

[Rob]

What Jorge did was trust we could discern for ourselves how he meant it (and I think we can). It's basically the same argument Rogan gave in his apology.

[Mickey]

Only took seven pages before we got our first "how come they get to say it?"

[E.H. Ruddock]

Honest question for those of you seemingly wanting to be able to use this word without repercussion from society;

Does respect for others' interpretation/meaning come in to play at all for you or is this more of a selfish "it is my right to say what I want" deal? Do you think you are more offended about not being able to use it than the people it offends? What is that line? Certainly not if one, two, or even 100 people are offended, but what about the majority of a whole race?

When I was a teen/young adult, one set of my grandparents didn't mind if I cursed in conversation. Of course I never dropped an f-bomb or anything like that, but I would use, shit, damn, etc. They were Catholic, and one time I remember saying "Jesus Christ why didn't he pass the ball?" and my grandmother raised her voice and asked me never to use that term like that in front of her again. It wasn't offensive to me as I was questioning my religious beliefs at the time, but it was offensive to her. I guess I could have told her it is my right to say what I want. I pussed out though and never said it in front of her again.

I realize to Burt and s_s this is going to be some sort of simpleton, "sheeple", do what the "left" tells me to do opinion, but it just seems like common sense and respect. Taking time to argue as a white person why you should be able to say the n word, even if the context isn't malicious, just seems... weird?

Is it also common sense and respect to not get upset when someone uses a word for a different intent than hurting them? Why must it only flow one way? Must we all be eternally constrained by people's sensitivities? How does that possibly progress to anything good?

It’s not some newly discovered word where society is still determining acceptable use and/or it’s offensiveness. It’s is a word with deep history and meaning. So saying “what about giving us white people the respect to use it with different intent?” really doesn’t work here. But yes discussing it in context of how wrong it is to say it probably shouldn’t be getting Rogan the heat he is, if that’s his context. I haven’t listened to every instance yet. But when you pair that with him comparing black neighborhoods to the planet of the apes (and posters here thinking that is a reasonable comparison based on the state of the neighborhood) then it’s hard not to infer some things about the situation.

[BurtReynolds]

Quote my whole post, slanderer!

[Bammer]

Only took seven pages before we got our first "how come they get to say it?"

To be fair it didn’t surface in the conversation until page 3

[E.H. Ruddock]

Quote my whole post, slanderer!

They were different paragraphs so they were different points. I’m speaking to this one

[Jorge]

There's a kind of timidness to this thread title that I find very endearing

[Mickey]

Only took seven pages before we got our first "how come they get to say it?"

To be fair it didn’t surface in the conversation until page 3

You're right--it's really like page 4.5

[Rob]

There's a kind of timidness to this thread title that I find very endearing

B created the title, and it was before the n-word stuff.

But also - I'm 43, not sure how old you guys are, but I assume somewhere in that ballpark. Without defending anyone or anything, do you guys not remember back when "why can a black guy use this word, but it's wrong for everyone else, regardless of context" was a real debate? It's too late in the game to not get it now, but that was a real debate. It's something that had to be (maybe for some still needs to be) argued and resolved. I remember a George Carlin special where he actually screams the word in a joke, back in the 80s or early 90s. Wrong by today's standards, sure, and I'm sure the previous standard was lacking. But we're still cool with him, right?

[Mickey]

And yet, the first post on this page.

[Jorge]

I'm 34 and I remember that

[Mickey]

I really hate when people on this board are like "I assume we're all middle-aged weirdos." Speak for yourself, I started posting here when I was 12.

[Jorge]

Hey we're all getting there

[Mickey]

Speak for yourself, I am not getting there.

[BurtReynolds]

Speak for yourself, I am not getting there.

You're an old soul.

[Simple Torture]

Speak for yourself, I am not getting there.

Live fast, die young, leave a pasty-white corpse

[Rob]

And yet, the first post on this page.

I didn't create this thread but I'm glad he did, because I stand by it. I'm less interested in Rogan himself and more in how his listeners are seen by you guys.

[Mickey]

And yet, the first post on this page.

I didn't create this thread but I'm glad he did, because I stand by it. I'm less interested in Rogan himself and more in how his listeners are seen by you guys.

...What?