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verb_to_trust wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:But then what would you guys complain about?! Your whole life is about complaining!

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verb_to_trust wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:But then what would you guys complain about?! Your whole life is about complaining!

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verb_to_trust wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:But then what would you guys complain about?! Your whole life is about complaining!

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washing machine wrote:I absolutely do not mind if mods do their job, but in my mind that job is technical board maintenance/admin stuff. Moving threads. Pruning second account/bot spamming. That's pretty much it.

In this particular instance, and based on all of your responses so far explaining your modding (ty by the way), this is how I see that things went down:

1. A thread was started about porn quotes.
2. Things got questionable? The word "slut" was thrown around? Yet no one complained.
3. You decided to delete the thread when no one was looking and had no intention of explaining it until Jorge burt started this thread.

I can see the need to edit/censor when there's a complaint. Or if kids read this board. Or if you were trying to get the board ready for a big corporate sale to pearljam.com and need it to look clean and professional. I think you overstepped, that's all. Doesn't mean I don't want modding to happen, though I do enjoy making it difficult sometimes when I intentionally try to make you merge or move a thread about bagels/donuts.

washing machine wrote:

epilogue wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:Joey's only mistake here was engaging with the paranoid troll group.

I knew full well what I was doing. This has all gone pretty much exactly as I expected. But I decided when I became a mod that I would try to engage and be transparent because I know that's an issue some have with the team here. I know it changes nothing. But it feels like good faith to me and I want to offer that to the community.

I sincerely appreciate this post. I'm not trolling in this thread. I think this is a valuable discussion the board needs to have from time to time. I mean this in the best way possible, but I want to try and make it clear that I respect the mods as people but do not always respect the modding decisions.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:And that probably won’t change for the rest of the life of this board.

Edit- that was to Burt’s post

epilogue wrote:Are you suggesting every mod should make a thread about board maintenance every time they make a move?

washing machine wrote:

epilogue wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:

epilogue wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:Joey's only mistake here was engaging with the paranoid troll group.

I knew full well what I was doing. This has all gone pretty much exactly as I expected. But I decided when I became a mod that I would try to engage and be transparent because I know that's an issue some have with the team here. I know it changes nothing. But it feels like good faith to me and I want to offer that to the community.

I admire your commitment to this unpaid job, but trying to engage with Burt, Verb or Mac in good faith is like pissing in the wind.

Well, that's certainly true. And I've largely avoided doing so. But tree has asked some good faith questions. And while I know full well Reid is probably trolling too, he's also asking questions that might benefit others. So I'm going to pursue those in good faith, too.

Wait. I just read this. What gives you the idea that I am trolling? I mean, I'm glad you're pursuing it in good faith, but that kind of preconceived wrongness ("I know full well...") is exactly why I think any "modding" outside of board upkeep and admin stuff is dangerous to a small community like RM.

macphisto wrote:

epilogue wrote:Are you suggesting every mod should make a thread about board maintenance every time they make a move?

That would be a yuge step toward mod transparency and accountability!

macphisto wrote:

epilogue wrote:Are you suggesting every mod should make a thread about board maintenance every time they make a move?

That would be a yuge step toward mod transparency and accountability!

epilogue wrote:

washing machine wrote:

epilogue wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:

epilogue wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:Joey's only mistake here was engaging with the paranoid troll group.

I knew full well what I was doing. This has all gone pretty much exactly as I expected. But I decided when I became a mod that I would try to engage and be transparent because I know that's an issue some have with the team here. I know it changes nothing. But it feels like good faith to me and I want to offer that to the community.

I admire your commitment to this unpaid job, but trying to engage with Burt, Verb or Mac in good faith is like pissing in the wind.

Well, that's certainly true. And I've largely avoided doing so. But tree has asked some good faith questions. And while I know full well Reid is probably trolling too, he's also asking questions that might benefit others. So I'm going to pursue those in good faith, too.

Wait. I just read this. What gives you the idea that I am trolling? I mean, I'm glad you're pursuing it in good faith, but that kind of preconceived wrongness ("I know full well...") is exactly why I think any "modding" outside of board upkeep and admin stuff is dangerous to a small community like RM.

What gives me that idea? Um because I've posted with you for like a decade now.

If I'm wrong, I apologize. I just assumed you were doing your thing. Please forgive me if I'm wrong. My bad.

washing machine wrote:

macphisto wrote:

epilogue wrote:Are you suggesting every mod should make a thread about board maintenance every time they make a move?

That would be a yuge step toward mod transparency and accountability!

Yeah, this was my thought too. Probably too advanced for this board's functionality, but something like a thread from a logging bot stickied in tech support would be ideal. Kind of like the activities log in ESPN's fantasy app. Just a ledger of activity.

BurtReynolds wrote:In all seriousness it is funny that we have multiple mods for what is essentially a group chat for a dozen gen Xers. Why? It makes no sense.

The elitist mods can delete posts - or even entire forums - with impunity at their whim, yet the other 10 of us can't! And they pretend they are better than us!

We are marginalized.