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Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Wed November 22, 2023 8:41 pm
by dimejinky99
Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Often forgotten had he succeeded in europe, the new world was next.

Imagine napoleons America today? That could be awesome
He sold the Louisiana Purchase to the US while in power. He was happy to have it off the books

Yeah but the Brits. Had it in for them afterwards. Big time. And they were trying to take it.

And that sale was necessary for funds. Only reason.

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Wed November 22, 2023 8:44 pm
by dimejinky99
Anders wrote:
spike wrote:
Anders wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:There is also apparently a four-hour director's cut slated for eventual release on Apple+

Great news.
I want to go see this while in Paris, for obvious reasons, but my wife wants to wait for the director’s cut. :gomez:

Apparently it fleshes things out beyond the battles and his marriage.
Won’t it be dubbed in French if you see it there?

:haha:

That’s fucked. You’re right. It would be.


The French being the French would riot and go on strike if they heard even a second of yer man’s American accent

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Wed November 22, 2023 10:46 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Tom?

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 1:40 am
by BurtReynolds
Oh my God this is boring as fuck.

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 1:42 am
by BurtReynolds
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I don’t think I could take 4 hours of this.
No kidding

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 1:43 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
We should have watched Wish instead

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 1:48 am
by BurtReynolds
Is this theatre fucked up, or is this movie too dark?

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 1:54 am
by dimejinky99
BurtReynolds wrote:Oh my God this is boring as fuck.

Hehehe

*laughs in Star Wars fan*

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 2:20 am
by BurtReynolds
You'd think as one of the greatest visual filmmakers of all time, Scott could at least make some pretty pictures, but this movie looks awful.

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 2:28 am
by The Argonaut
I'm no artist or color guy, but, yeah, maybe this movie is a little too...grey? sometimes

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 2:29 am
by Ello Sailor
Pretty pictures weren't invented until 1822, so...

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 2:32 am
by The Argonaut
You've got to hand it to Ridley Scott, though. Stanley Kubrick spent about forty years trying to make a Napoleon movie. I saw a museum exhibit once with a bunch of Kubrick items. It included an entire bookcase of Napoleon books, all marked up and bookmarked, multiple scripts with handwritten notes. It took up much of his creative life and never amounted to anything.

Ridley basically just said "fuck it, I'll do it live" and banged out a four hour Napoleon in a year, complete with epic battles and everything. Got to appreciate the hustle

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 2:34 am
by dimejinky99
The Argonaut wrote:I'm no artist or color guy, but, yeah, maybe this movie is a little too...grey? sometimes

Same with the Martian. It’s an extremely limited colour pallete throughout.
I think this is a new thing? I only became aware of it with last Jedi. Someone did a big compilation of thousands of frames from it and it’s all white and red and black

If it’s been a thing forever I haven’t noticed before

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 2:43 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 2:50 am
by BurtReynolds
It's not just the desaturation. Everything is underlit and cheap looking. Like I said, maybe it's the theater, but it reminded me of that Solo movie.

A desaturated pallete isn't that bad, but it looks like he just threw a blue filter over it and called it done.

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 2:51 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 3:05 am
by BurtReynolds
Spoiler: show
I think making him a buffoon in private life could have worked if they also explained why he was so brilliant on the battlefield. Could have been an interesting story to show that contrast. But this is just bad comedy...it all feels so surface level and choppy...no real characters come through.

F stars!

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 3:19 am
by E.H. Ruddock
The Argonaut wrote:You've got to hand it to Ridley Scott, though.
No, i don’t

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 3:26 am
by Ello Sailor
No, Argo is right. Ridley Scott is a legend and y'all are being BIG MEANIES.

Re: Napoleon (Ridley Scott) - 11/22/23

Posted: Thu November 23, 2023 3:33 am
by BurtReynolds
Doesn't help that I watched Barry Lyndon recently and it's a thousand times better.