The most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career - RESULTS

[stip]

It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow

To be clear, it's always shitty.

[wease]

I love how we all loved Ed being an angry motherfucker towards bouncers, security crews, interviewers, half naked women in the auidence, bros in the crowd, soundmen, lighting crew....but as soon as he threw an acoustic guitar down in front of his roadie that is where we draw the line. Why? cause we didnt like lightning bolt and thus he's an asshole

This didn’t really bother me, once the background came out

What was the background?

[mray10]

While it happens for other bands and artists as well, but for PJ, the worst fans always seem very fixated on Ed.

I mean, if you don't think a segment of DMB fans are fixating on Mr. Matthews then let me tell you about this thing some have about how he arches his eyebrows and where some people have tattooed something that looks like his arched eyebrows.

[scottmusic]

Ed’s guitar tuning was screwed up for Sirens at a number of shows that leg, if I remember correctly. Ed (and the band?) I’m sure we’re pretty frustrated with Ricky.

After being fired, I remember Ricky went on a Facebook rampage about how Ed was a horrible person or something

[Ms Harmless]

It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow

To be clear, it's always shitty.

let's take this to the poop thread

[dad]

It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow

To be clear, it's always shitty.

let's take this to the poop thread

[scottmusic]

Most embarrassing for me has always been Make Poverty History with U2. That was terrible

Also Comeback is embarrassing when you realize Eddie wrote it for Johnny Ramone

[tree_]

But in hindsight, yeah, it's this

Stupid boob showing girls need to educate themselves so they can vote hehe you only have mosquito bites

little known fact: Stone took this little lady to his dressing room after the show and had his way with her

[igotworms]

Ed’s guitar tuning was screwed up for Sirens at a number of shows that leg, if I remember correctly. Ed (and the band?) I’m sure we’re pretty frustrated with Ricky.

After being fired, I remember Ricky went on a Facebook rampage about how Ed was a horrible person or something

I remember that. He said that Ed had issues and that Johnny didn't really like him. Ed must have been gutted - after writing Come Back about him an' all.

[wease]

Ed’s guitar tuning was screwed up for Sirens at a number of shows that leg, if I remember correctly. Ed (and the band?) I’m sure we’re pretty frustrated with Ricky.

After being fired, I remember Ricky went on a Facebook rampage about how Ed was a horrible person or something

I remember that. He said that Ed had issues and that Johnny didn't really like him. Ed must have been gutted - after writing Come Back about him an' all.

Weren’t there other songs written about him too? Seems like I remember seeing somewhere that Save You was about him. And maybe Life Wasted?

[stip]

Do you think Johnny was upset he never got a 'The Miracle of Joey Ramone' written about him?

[Jorge]

Ed’s guitar tuning was screwed up for Sirens at a number of shows that leg, if I remember correctly. Ed (and the band?) I’m sure we’re pretty frustrated with Ricky.

After being fired, I remember Ricky went on a Facebook rampage about how Ed was a horrible person or something

I remember that. He said that Ed had issues and that Johnny didn't really like him. Ed must have been gutted - after writing Come Back about him an' all.

And then he was re-hired IIRC. Lol

Awkward

[oneway23]

The true Johnny Guitar

[Ello Sailor]

I'm sure I have a reputation for being an apologist

Absolutely. Lmao.

[warehouse]

i've read this entire thing and the Target commercial is by far the worst

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[Jorge]

I think I remember reading that

Don't take my word for it

[Birds in Hell]

I don’t think they did.

[Simple Torture]

as much as I hate bitchy threads like this, I'd be reluctant to include anything said/done in the heat of the moment during a live show. Over the course of 30+ years where every single live utterance is archived forever you're going to have a moment when you are not your best self. That there are so few is remarkable, and those strike me as something different than actions taken with sober and deliberate intent (though even then in many of these cases we don't know the full story).

I'm sure I have a reputation for being an apologist, but a lot of this is my work/professional life bleeding into this thread. I spend a huge chunk of every day addressing faculty complaints about administration that have only the most superficial understanding of the nuances and data behind decisions and policies that govern what we do, and student complaints about faculty choices that are often informed by a rush to judgement. Plus my academic background in political science is more of the same. The same rush to judgement and moral posturing without a full understanding of the complexity behind why choices are made.

And so I always suspect the actual rationale behind some of the things we complain about have a lot more behind them. Enough that I am generally comfortable giving the benefit of the doubt until we actually know more (which we usually don't).

None of this—and I mean NONE OF THIS—excuses the late-era change to the Corduroy bridge.

[Jorge]

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... =15&t=2620

Here's the last time we debated this

Wow, 2013 feels simultaneously like a million years ago and like it just happened