Red Mosquito

Jorge wrote:It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow

tragabigzanda wrote:

Strat wrote:I love how we all loved Ed being an angry motherfucker towards bouncers, security crews, interviewers, half naked women in the auidence, bros in the crowd, soundmen, lighting crew....but as soon as he threw an acoustic guitar down in front of his roadie that is where we draw the line. Why? cause we didnt like lightning bolt and thus he's an asshole

This didn’t really bother me, once the background came out

Anders wrote:While it happens for other bands and artists as well, but for PJ, the worst fans always seem very fixated on Ed.

stip wrote:

Jorge wrote:It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow

To be clear, it's always shitty.

Ms Harmless wrote:

stip wrote:

Jorge wrote:It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow

To be clear, it's always shitty.

let's take this to the poop thread

Jorge wrote:But in hindsight, yeah, it's this

Mike wrote:

Stupid boob showing girls need to educate themselves so they can vote hehe you only have mosquito bites

scottmusic wrote:Ed’s guitar tuning was screwed up for Sirens at a number of shows that leg, if I remember correctly. Ed (and the band?) I’m sure we’re pretty frustrated with Ricky.

After being fired, I remember Ricky went on a Facebook rampage about how Ed was a horrible person or something

igotworms wrote:

scottmusic wrote:Ed’s guitar tuning was screwed up for Sirens at a number of shows that leg, if I remember correctly. Ed (and the band?) I’m sure we’re pretty frustrated with Ricky.

After being fired, I remember Ricky went on a Facebook rampage about how Ed was a horrible person or something

I remember that. He said that Ed had issues and that Johnny didn't really like him. Ed must have been gutted - after writing Come Back about him an' all.

igotworms wrote:

scottmusic wrote:Ed’s guitar tuning was screwed up for Sirens at a number of shows that leg, if I remember correctly. Ed (and the band?) I’m sure we’re pretty frustrated with Ricky.

After being fired, I remember Ricky went on a Facebook rampage about how Ed was a horrible person or something

I remember that. He said that Ed had issues and that Johnny didn't really like him. Ed must have been gutted - after writing Come Back about him an' all.

stip wrote:I'm sure I have a reputation for being an apologist

stip wrote:as much as I hate bitchy threads like this, I'd be reluctant to include anything said/done in the heat of the moment during a live show. Over the course of 30+ years where every single live utterance is archived forever you're going to have a moment when you are not your best self. That there are so few is remarkable, and those strike me as something different than actions taken with sober and deliberate intent (though even then in many of these cases we don't know the full story).

I'm sure I have a reputation for being an apologist, but a lot of this is my work/professional life bleeding into this thread. I spend a huge chunk of every day addressing faculty complaints about administration that have only the most superficial understanding of the nuances and data behind decisions and policies that govern what we do, and student complaints about faculty choices that are often informed by a rush to judgement. Plus my academic background in political science is more of the same. The same rush to judgement and moral posturing without a full understanding of the complexity behind why choices are made.

And so I always suspect the actual rationale behind some of the things we complain about have a lot more behind them. Enough that I am generally comfortable giving the benefit of the doubt until we actually know more (which we usually don't).