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Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:38 pm
by oneway23
Jaeti wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Release_Me wrote:I'm really not hearing much of the problematic enunciation in this one, tbh. Ed sounds good to me.
Jaeti wrote:Pronunciation/enunciation issues are really being blown out of proportion with regard to these 30 seconds.
"haaaaayyyuuhhhuunnnnd" at 19 seconds into that clip sounds good to you?
I mean, that's singing.
How insightful...

You didn't answer my question...Does it sound GOOD to you?
Sounds more like the onset of a stroke to me.
Bait: Not taken.
What are you on about? I'm not trolling you...I'm asking for a little strength of character, I'm begging for color, insight, depth, personality....Give me a little more than the most meaningless, bland, vanilla, wallpaper response imaginable...Why do you like it? What do you like about it? A difference of opinion is not a disease. It should be embraced.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:40 pm
by Val
oneway23 wrote: What are you on about? I'm not trolling you...I'm asking for a little strength of character, I'm begging for color, insight, depth, personality....Give me a little more than the most meaningless, bland, vanilla, wallpaper response imaginable...Why do you like it? What do you like about it? A difference of opinion is not a disease. It should be embraced.
:haha:

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:40 pm
by Farmer John
Jaeti is a master-bait-not-taken-er

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:41 pm
by tree_
big fan of oneway23 right now. Big fan.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:42 pm
by Mike
Starting to think oneway23 is actually Stone Gossard

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:43 pm
by oneway23
Not Stone, but, I can go get my Stone's Bitches t-shirt, if you want

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:45 pm
by tree_
Aside from hating the way Ed sounds, this song is hokey as dang. As dang. So hokey. In a bad way.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:47 pm
by dad
tree_ wrote:"the tweeisted wheewww..." oh my god.. Ed has the most annoying enunciation to me, and I just can't get past it. Why can't he say a simple word like "wheel" normally?

"speeciooohhohhh"

it's just painful to listen to.. it's like he doesn't know how to breathe and is trying so hard to get all the words out in time but forgot how to say some of them correctly.. not pleasant
you know which singer enunciates well? Josh Tillman.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:48 pm
by tree_
dad wrote:
tree_ wrote:"the tweeisted wheewww..." oh my god.. Ed has the most annoying enunciation to me, and I just can't get past it. Why can't he say a simple word like "wheel" normally?

"speeciooohhohhh"

it's just painful to listen to.. it's like he doesn't know how to breathe and is trying so hard to get all the words out in time but forgot how to say some of them correctly.. not pleasant
you know which singer enunciates well? Josh Tillman.
indeed. He also breathes well. that man is smoothe as buttere

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:52 pm
by Release_Me
oneway23 wrote:
Release_Me wrote:I'm really not hearing much of the problematic enunciation in this one, tbh. Ed sounds good to me.
Jaeti wrote:Pronunciation/enunciation issues are really being blown out of proportion with regard to these 30 seconds.
"haaaaayyyuuhhhuunnnnd" at 19 seconds into that clip sounds good to you?
I don't hear it. He doesn't just sing "hand", but it's not what you wrote either. Singers take liberties with the way they pronounce words when singing. "Jeremy spoke in class today" wasn't sung like it's written. I mean, that's a given.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:53 pm
by tree_
Release_Me wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Release_Me wrote:I'm really not hearing much of the problematic enunciation in this one, tbh. Ed sounds good to me.
Jaeti wrote:Pronunciation/enunciation issues are really being blown out of proportion with regard to these 30 seconds.
"haaaaayyyuuhhhuunnnnd" at 19 seconds into that clip sounds good to you?
I don't hear it. He doesn't just sing "hand", but it's not what you wrote either. Singers take liberties with the way they pronounce words when singing. "Jeremy spoke in class today" wasn't sung like it's written. I mean, that's a given.
Yes, but that sounded good, confident, necessary

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:56 pm
by Release_Me
The word "hand" is hardly elongated enough to even stick out. I do get the issues some people have with Ed overpronouncing certain vowels and stuff in recent years, but I just don't hear it in this clip. He sounds good and the melody is catchy. The song, I don't think I'll rank as anywhere near the best on the album, simply because this kind of song isn't my thing. But it's not making me cringe.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 2:57 pm
by Release_Me
tree_ wrote:
Release_Me wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Release_Me wrote:I'm really not hearing much of the problematic enunciation in this one, tbh. Ed sounds good to me.
Jaeti wrote:Pronunciation/enunciation issues are really being blown out of proportion with regard to these 30 seconds.
"haaaaayyyuuhhhuunnnnd" at 19 seconds into that clip sounds good to you?
I don't hear it. He doesn't just sing "hand", but it's not what you wrote either. Singers take liberties with the way they pronounce words when singing. "Jeremy spoke in class today" wasn't sung like it's written. I mean, that's a given.
Yes, but that sounded good, confident, necessary
To those who liked it. Others made fun of his enunciation. Same applies to this clip. I like it.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 3:00 pm
by Release_Me
Ed's voice was always the best thing about Pearl Jam, for me. It still is, in studio especially.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 3:11 pm
by Coach
There are times when Ed's "noises" are good (see REM's It Happened Today) and times when it's not so good. At the end of the day.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 3:12 pm
by oneway23
I think the main thing that's bugging me is, unlike the Jeremy example that Release_Me gave earlier, where that was 100% a creative choice from a singer fully in control of their instrument, this sounds like someone who arrived at this outcome out of necessity.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 3:15 pm
by Buby
Coach wrote:There are times when Ed's "noises" are good (see REM's It Happened Today) and times when it's not so good. At the end of the day.
Good shout Coach.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 3:16 pm
by stip
isnt he just pitching up the word hand. maybe you dont like the sound of it (i dont lovr it personally) but it seems like a pretty standard choice a singer could make. Its not a Vedderism. Its nit an elongated vowel situation.

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 3:16 pm
by Ms Harmless
oneway23 wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Release_Me wrote:I'm really not hearing much of the problematic enunciation in this one, tbh. Ed sounds good to me.
Jaeti wrote:Pronunciation/enunciation issues are really being blown out of proportion with regard to these 30 seconds.
"haaaaayyyuuhhhuunnnnd" at 19 seconds into that clip sounds good to you?
I mean, that's singing.
How insightful...

You didn't answer my question...Does it sound GOOD to you?
Sounds more like the onset of a stroke to me.
not being funny but are we supposed to think you're hearing with pinpoint accuracy when you're typing wild hyperbole like that?

I hear it, but it's definitely not nearly as bad as Lightning Bolt; I actually have a hunch that this might have been recorded early, closer to LB, at least these vocals, because I don't hear any of those problems (but once) in the two singles

Re: Something Special

Posted: Tue April 09, 2024 3:17 pm
by Thejambi
I don’t think how he pronounces “hand” is an issue at all. The processing and/or auto tuning going on with it sounds odd though. Seems like a hard splice after it as well.