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Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:01 pm
by Gods' Die
theplatypus wrote:Fucking Oasis.
Don't look back in anger.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:02 pm
by harmless
I only compare Oasis and Radiohead because both bands' sound was originally based in "Brit Pop", which quickly became interchangeable with British Indie.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:02 pm
by Jorge
Gods' Die wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Fucking Oasis.
Don't look back in anger.
I'll stop crying my heart out.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:05 pm
by zeb
theplatypus wrote:
zeb wrote:
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:How do you feel about 13?
I find it pretty underwhelming. That being said, the three singles (Tender, Coffee & TV, and No Distance Left to Run) are three of the most jaw-droppingly beautiful things they ever did. But I feel like the rest of the album crumbles around those tracks.
There are piles of great songs on that record.
It's my favorite Blur album, but I will agree that the singles are the best songs.
I agree that they're the best songs but I disagree that "the rest of the album crumbles around those tracks".

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:06 pm
by harmless
Definitely, Maybe and What's the Story... were good albums. After that, pfft. I remember my dad liking the song "Do you Know What I Mean?" when it came out, and I really tried hard to agree, and I listened to it over and over again, before realising that "All the people right here right now, do you know what I mean?" were the worst lyrics I'd ever heard, and that was the day I put Oasis down for good.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:07 pm
by Soma.
theplatypus wrote:
Gods' Die wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Fucking Oasis.
Don't look back in anger.
I'll stop crying my heart out.
Honestly, Oasis is more infuriating as a collective than Bono could ever hope to be.

Big, big wankers.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:09 pm
by Gods' Die
theplatypus wrote:
Gods' Die wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Fucking Oasis.
Don't look back in anger.
I'll stop crying my heart out.
I actually like Oasis. Probably still have like 40 of their songs, and know that enjoying them is in poor taste but fuck off I know every word to Ice, Ice Baby. But for some reason I have no problem forgiving some bands for being terribly derivative. Plus I think their meathead bullshit is hilarious.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:10 pm
by Jorge
harmless wrote:Definitely, Maybe and What's the Story... were good albums. After that, pfft. I remember my dad liking the song "Do you Know What I Mean?" when it came out, and I really tried hard to agree, and I listened to it over and over again, before realising that "All the people right here right now, do you know what I mean?" were the worst lyrics I'd ever heard, and that was the day I put Oasis down for good.
I liked "I Hope I Think I Know" from that third album. There are a few good moments scattered through that latter half of their career, but more than any other band I know, Oasis's discography feels very much like browsing the 5-dollar bin at Walmart-- you're bound to find a few treasures, but they're buried amidst a sea of repackaged mediocrity.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:13 pm
by Lament
harmless wrote:Definitely, Maybe and What's the Story... were good albums. After that, pfft. I remember my dad liking the song "Do you Know What I Mean?" when it came out, and I really tried hard to agree, and I listened to it over and over again, before realising that "All the people right here right now, do you know what I mean?" were the worst lyrics I'd ever heard, and that was the day I put Oasis down for good.
D'You Know What I Mean? is brilliant. The weird feedback and loops and blips and the NWA drum samples slowed down to god-knows-what, the 29 different guitar overdubs, the huge, slow build up into the fantastic opening lines ("Step off the train all alone at dawn/Back into the hole where I was born..."), the way the music shifts and gets all anxious in the pre-chorus when Liam's voice jumps up a register and he sings "I met my maker, I made him cry," the video with Liam in the gigantic parka and the helicopters dropping people off on the island. Man, hearing that song for the first time is a moment I'll never forget. Great memories for me.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:14 pm
by Jorge
Speaking of the 5-dollar bin at Walmart, I found a copy of Avocado the last time I went there and it made me kind of sad.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:14 pm
by Lament
theplatypus wrote:Speaking of the 5-dollar bin at Walmart, I found a copy of Avocado the last time I went there and it made me kind of sad Letter to the Dead.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:15 pm
by Soma.
Hahahahaha

Anyway, glad to see y'all band together in defending 13. Clearly Blur's high point.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:16 pm
by Jorge
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Definitely, Maybe and What's the Story... were good albums. After that, pfft. I remember my dad liking the song "Do you Know What I Mean?" when it came out, and I really tried hard to agree, and I listened to it over and over again, before realising that "All the people right here right now, do you know what I mean?" were the worst lyrics I'd ever heard, and that was the day I put Oasis down for good.
D'You Know What I Mean? is brilliant. The weird feedback and loops and blips and the NWA drum samples slowed down to god-knows-what, the 29 different guitar overdubs, the huge, slow build up into the fantastic opening lines ("Step off the train all alone at dawn/Back into the hole where I was born..."), the way the music shifts and gets all anxious in the pre-chorus when Liam's voice jumps up a register and he sings "I met my maker, I made him cry," the video with Liam in the gigantic parka and the helicopters dropping people off on the island. Man, hearing that song for the first time is a moment I'll never forget. Great memories for me.
It really is impressive how they managed to stretch out a 3-minute song skeleton into that 7+ minute monstrosity.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:19 pm
by Soma.
theplatypus wrote:It really is impressive how they managed to write the same 3-minute song hundreds of times and make money doing so.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:20 pm
by Lament
theplatypus wrote:It really is impressive how they managed to stretch out a 3-minute song skeleton into that 7+ minute monstrosity.
There's not a second on that track I'd cut. That they had the gall to make that the lead single for the most anticipated album in maybe all of British music history is that kind of thing that if Radiohead did there wouldn't be a single critic ever shutting up about what a "brave, bold move" it was.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:20 pm
by harmless
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Definitely, Maybe and What's the Story... were good albums. After that, pfft. I remember my dad liking the song "Do you Know What I Mean?" when it came out, and I really tried hard to agree, and I listened to it over and over again, before realising that "All the people right here right now, do you know what I mean?" were the worst lyrics I'd ever heard, and that was the day I put Oasis down for good.
D'You Know What I Mean? is brilliant. The weird feedback and loops and blips and the NWA drum samples slowed down to god-knows-what, the 29 different guitar overdubs, the huge, slow build up into the fantastic opening lines ("Step off the train all alone at dawn/Back into the hole where I was born..."), the way the music shifts and gets all anxious in the pre-chorus when Liam's voice jumps up a register and he sings "I met my maker, I made him cry," the video with Liam in the gigantic parka and the helicopters dropping people off on the island. Man, hearing that song for the first time is a moment I'll never forget. Great memories for me.
The video was good, and I've no doubt that there were interesting things going on production and instrumentation-wise. It's just not a good song, imo, unless you can find some redeemable quality in the subversiveness of using such a bland, boring English phrase "D'you Know What I Mean?" I suppose it's quite Beatles-esque in being so colloquial, but that's just not my thing.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:22 pm
by Jorge
Lament wrote:
theplatypus wrote:It really is impressive how they managed to stretch out a 3-minute song skeleton into that 7+ minute monstrosity.
There's not a second on that track I'd cut.
I'd cut the whole track

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:23 pm
by harmless
Soma. wrote:
theplatypus wrote:It really is impressive how they managed to write the same 3-minute song hundreds of times and make money doing so.
This was my feeling about "D'you Know What I Mean?" It was the epitome of lazy, because apart from the general window-dressing of delay on the guitars (if I remember rightly), a cool video (helicopters, camouflage jackets), and lots of production wizardry, we'd heard it all before but with decent lyrics.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:23 pm
by Lament
Oasis had as much stylistic variation in their career as Pearl Jam did. But (not unlike Pearl Jam), people who dislike and dismiss them tend to just assume everything sounds like the three songs they remember and latch onto really insipid and lazy criticisms because at a certain point no one bothers to actually think about whether or not they're accurate.

Re: Best 3 album run by any band/artist

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 10:23 pm
by Soma.
D'yknow is a solid track, for Oasis. Anyone who over-analyzes the lyrics of buffoons like the Gallaghers is probably somewhat of a buffoon themselves.