Red Mosquito

Lament wrote:

Strat wrote:I bet his poop looks nice and sparkly now that BOB is on board!

Last week he had this really rough, painful poop that he said felt amazing when it came out, but the only reason he was even able to drop it was cause BO'B wasn't around to force him to hold it in.

I feel like this is the time to tell you about THE TORPEDO POOP OF 1984. I was 10 years old and had been playing ball hockey outside. Early in the afternoon, I felt the expectant twinges deep in my bowels. I chose to not leave the game. Leave my friends. I chose to stay. That decision forced me, five hours later, to drop my stick where I stood, mid run throw my gloves (never to be found again), and dash the three blocks to my house. When I arrived, I threw open the door and ran up the stairs, pushed my brother aside, told my mom I couldn't stop, said my first true swear word and jumped from hallway to toilet. Maybe with the rush of activity, every ounce of poop in me shot out like a cannon in under a second. The pain of pushing out 3 pounds of shit through a tiny opening was so intense I passed out. My dad came along, unaware of the excitement but hearing the noise of me falling, knocked once...twice..three times.."You ok in there?" ...silence. He opens the door and there I am, on the floor, pants to my ankle, glasses crooked on my face from the fall - passed out. Later I would be told that he thought I was masturbating. It wasn't until many years later that he finally heard the true story. We are still healing.

Thanks for listening.

Touching story, thanks for sharing.

just imagine how much better LB would be if it was made with this guy

wow, you listen to that performance and can't help think that there's no way these guys are gonna make it to 4 albums.

pappas wrote:just imagine how much better LB would be if it was made with this guy

no

stip wrote:wow, you listen to that performance and can't help think that there's no way these guys are gonna make it to 4 albums.

It's that kind of shit right there that makes me feel bad for ever judging Eds current voice and some of the strange vocal choices he makes these days. its amazing he can even sing at all considering what he put his voice through for so many years.

Sgt. Crackpot wrote:

Yeah it's like he was on a mission to fuck up his greatest asset.

If only Shakespeare were around to tell his tortured tale. Hamlet 2: Edlectric Boogaloo.

I don't know what I just typed up there.

pappas wrote:just imagine how much better LB would be if it was made with this guy

Wow, I have a total drum-bone. It's like a trombone but made of fucking wood.

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:wow, you listen to that performance and can't help think that there's no way these guys are gonna make it to 4 albums.

It's that kind of shit right there that makes me feel bad for ever judging Eds current voice and some of the strange vocal choices he makes these days. its amazing he can even sing at all considering what he put his voice through for so many years.

I have one or two small issues with Ed's current voice, and none of them are to do with him putting less strain on it.

harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:wow, you listen to that performance and can't help think that there's no way these guys are gonna make it to 4 albums.

It's that kind of shit right there that makes me feel bad for ever judging Eds current voice and some of the strange vocal choices he makes these days. its amazing he can even sing at all considering what he put his voice through for so many years.

I have one or two small issues with Ed's current voice, and none of them are to do with him putting less strain on it.

Heeeyah?

(here)

sward wrote:

harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:wow, you listen to that performance and can't help think that there's no way these guys are gonna make it to 4 albums.

It's that kind of shit right there that makes me feel bad for ever judging Eds current voice and some of the strange vocal choices he makes these days. its amazing he can even sing at all considering what he put his voice through for so many years.

I have one or two small issues with Ed's current voice, and none of them are to do with him putting less strain on it.

Heeeyah?

(here)

Yup, that's my biggest complaint. Syllable-splitting. I'm glad he doesn't screech much on this album, and when he does (Lightning Bolt) I like it.

Heyuah

harmless wrote:

pappas wrote:just imagine how much better LB would be if it was made with this guy

Wow, I have a total drum-bone. It's like a trombone but made of fucking wood.

Some people love this guy. I understand it but I've never really dug his style.

I've read Five Against One a few times (in which Dave is the only member of the band to talk to the author) and the only conclusion I can draw from it is that Dave A was never going to fit into that band. Ever.

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:wow, you listen to that performance and can't help think that there's no way these guys are gonna make it to 4 albums.

It's that kind of shit right there that makes me feel bad for ever judging Eds current voice and some of the strange vocal choices he makes these days. its amazing he can even sing at all considering what he put his voice through for so many years.

It's even more painful to listen to him try to do this during the 1995 shows where his voice isn't adequately warmed up for it. He sounds AWFUL during a lot of those shows, particularly the November shows. I think his voice needs time to warm up and that's why he tends to sound better further into a tour - and I think this is why he has sounded so bad in later years, because their tours are too short to really get him going. The nights where he sounds amazing tend to come at the end of a tour (Christchurch 2009 and Lima 2011 come to mind) where he's both warmup up and letting go a bit in anticipation of tour's end.

This is all just a theory. It makes sense to me though.

matt reeder wrote:
It's even more painful to listen to him try to do this during the 1995 shows where his voice isn't adequately warmed up for it. He sounds AWFUL during a lot of those shows, particularly the November shows. I think his voice needs time to warm up and that's why he tends to sound better further into a tour - and I think this is why he has sounded so bad in later years, because their tours are too short to really get him going. The nights where he sounds amazing tend to come at the end of a tour (Christchurch 2009 and Lima 2011 come to mind) where he's both warmup up and letting go a bit in anticipation of tour's end.

This is all just a theory. It makes sense to me though.

That should have the opposite effect in theory. Warming up has the purpose to get a singer's voice to full potential before a performance it's a shorthand thing. I think Ed's a singer who never needed to put much effort into singing the way he did so probably 1st bothered with getting a technique or vocal coach when he already had a career as singer. He has an enormous talent to begin with but voices are very sensible and i don't think any singer can pull off extensive tours without any formal technique whatsoever. I think Ed's vocals up and downs have a lot to do with physical sensibility to either colds/allergies or relative air humidity or whatever. I think any permanent damage that his vocal chords may have are still way below average for a rock singer in his late 40's. An obvious indication of damaged vocal chords is a raspy tone but he still sounds clean in most of his range.

Mine wrote:

matt reeder wrote:
It's even more painful to listen to him try to do this during the 1995 shows where his voice isn't adequately warmed up for it. He sounds AWFUL during a lot of those shows, particularly the November shows. I think his voice needs time to warm up and that's why he tends to sound better further into a tour - and I think this is why he has sounded so bad in later years, because their tours are too short to really get him going. The nights where he sounds amazing tend to come at the end of a tour (Christchurch 2009 and Lima 2011 come to mind) where he's both warmup up and letting go a bit in anticipation of tour's end.

This is all just a theory. It makes sense to me though.

That should have the opposite effect in theory. Warming up has the purpose to get a singer's voice to full potential before a performance it's a shorthand thing. I think Ed's a singer who never needed to put much effort into singing the way he did so probably 1st bothered with getting a technique or vocal coach when he already had a career as singer. He has an enormous talent to begin with but voices are very sensible and i don't think any singer can pull off extensive tours without any formal technique whatsoever. I think Ed's vocals up and downs have a lot to do with physical sensibility to either colds/allergies or relative air humidity or whatever. I think any permanent damage that his vocal chords may have are still way below average for a rock singer in his late 40's. An obvious indication of damaged vocal chords is a raspy tone but he still sounds clean in most of his range.

That may be too. I've just noticed that he tends to sound a lot better after about 10-15 shows into a tour than he does at the beginning. Why that is I don't know.

And by "sounds better" I mean "can scream at an adequate level for me". I don't know why but it just isn't Pearl Jam for me if Ed isn't letting it fly.

matt reeder wrote:

Mine wrote:

matt reeder wrote:
It's even more painful to listen to him try to do this during the 1995 shows where his voice isn't adequately warmed up for it. He sounds AWFUL during a lot of those shows, particularly the November shows. I think his voice needs time to warm up and that's why he tends to sound better further into a tour - and I think this is why he has sounded so bad in later years, because their tours are too short to really get him going. The nights where he sounds amazing tend to come at the end of a tour (Christchurch 2009 and Lima 2011 come to mind) where he's both warmup up and letting go a bit in anticipation of tour's end.

This is all just a theory. It makes sense to me though.

That should have the opposite effect in theory. Warming up has the purpose to get a singer's voice to full potential before a performance it's a shorthand thing. I think Ed's a singer who never needed to put much effort into singing the way he did so probably 1st bothered with getting a technique or vocal coach when he already had a career as singer. He has an enormous talent to begin with but voices are very sensible and i don't think any singer can pull off extensive tours without any formal technique whatsoever. I think Ed's vocals up and downs have a lot to do with physical sensibility to either colds/allergies or relative air humidity or whatever. I think any permanent damage that his vocal chords may have are still way below average for a rock singer in his late 40's. An obvious indication of damaged vocal chords is a raspy tone but he still sounds clean in most of his range.

That may be too. I've just noticed that he tends to sound a lot better after about 10-15 shows into a tour than he does at the beginning. Why that is I don't know.

And by "sounds better" I mean "can scream at an adequate level for me". I don't know why but it just isn't Pearl Jam for me if Ed isn't letting it fly.

That may be intentional on his part.

matt reeder wrote:

harmless wrote:

pappas wrote:just imagine how much better LB would be if it was made with this guy

Wow, I have a total drum-bone. It's like a trombone but made of fucking wood.

Some people love this guy. I understand it but I've never really dug his style.

I've read Five Against One a few times (in which Dave is the only member of the band to talk to the author) and the only conclusion I can draw from it is that Dave A was never going to fit into that band. Ever.

well that's a pity, because their music has never sounded better than with him at the heartbeat imo (Ten tour, VS album & Tour, Vitalogy album)

each to their own

Does someone know if Pearl Jam has ever done a great version of Chloe Dancer?