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Re: Pearl Jam: Sevens

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 1:34 am
by B
E.H. Ruddock wrote:So they release this on a Sunday with no email to fan club members? I suppose if I wasn't out enjoying the beautiful weather today I would have seen it on one of the fifteen Pearl Jam-related sites I have to follow on social media just to get news from this fucking band.
I was out enjoying the weather and didn't come inside to blog about it until it was sold out. :(

Re: Pearl Jam: Sevens

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 1:40 am
by Fuzzcharger
Rangi Guy wrote:It appears to no longer be on Amazon either
It will be interesting to see if my order gets cancelled then.

Re: Pearl Jam: Sevens

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 1:40 am
by BurtReynolds
Spoiler: show
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Re: Pearl Jam: Sevens

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 1:44 am
by Strat
I was out being a rad bro skiing today. Can someone sum up the last 8 pages?

Re: Pearl Jam: Sevens

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 2:19 am
by E.H. Ruddock
HardTI wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Oh and then they only make fifty and sell out within hours. Good job 10C, good fucking job.
do we know how many they made?
7

Re: Pearl Jam: Sevens

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 2:27 am
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:As long as the shit sells out instantly it is hard to fault 10c for making it
It's not that hard.
Are you against it because

A: it is a stupid product

B: because 10c will profit from it

C: because owning this might give someone a small, quiet bit of pleasure


Please assign each answer 1-5 stars in terms of its personal applicability
That nobody in the Pearl Jam organisation thought to say "that's a really dumb idea" seems, to me, indicative of a greater malaise. Does anyone there actually like music, follow bands, buy records? It seems hard to believe.

I'm unimpressed mainly by the cynicism I see behind the mountains of merchandise junk Pearl Jam releases; the KISS comparisons really aren't that absurd. As you said, the attitude seems to be "if these morons are dumb enough to buy it, we'd be stupid not to sell it!" If there was something, anything, to suggest there was some kind of motivation behind this release greater than "people will buy it", I'd be more understanding.

Music really means something to me. When the band treats their own record like something that can be arbitrarily cut up, repackaged and resold at a premium, it creates the impression that it doesn't mean that much to them.

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 2:39 am
by B
It seems kinda dumb to me so I didn't buy it. Then I went on living my life as though the release of this product had no impact on it.

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 2:51 am
by evenslow
spenno really gets how angry we're supposed to be about this.

they have betrayed us with this music collectible from a music group for $50.

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:06 am
by Birds in Hell
Haha, look at this jerk with his thoughts and feelings on things.

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:17 am
by BurtReynolds
B wrote:It seems kinda dumb to me so I didn't buy it. Then I went on living my life as though the release of this product had no impact on it.
see I can't do that.I start feeling bad for the suckafools getting played by an evil corporation and get angry.I want someone to be punished.

I just care. I care too much.

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:19 am
by evenslow
there are plenty of things to take great umbrage with. this is not one of them. annoying sure, but nothing to get worked up about.

i have freed you of umbrage. rejoice and give thanks.

Re: Pearl Jam: Sevens

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:22 am
by stip
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:As long as the shit sells out instantly it is hard to fault 10c for making it
It's not that hard.
Are you against it because

A: it is a stupid product

B: because 10c will profit from it

C: because owning this might give someone a small, quiet bit of pleasure


Please assign each answer 1-5 stars in terms of its personal applicability
That nobody in the Pearl Jam organisation thought to say "that's a really dumb idea" seems, to me, indicative of a greater malaise. Does anyone there actually like music, follow bands, buy records? It seems hard to believe.

I'm unimpressed mainly by the cynicism I see behind the mountains of merchandise junk Pearl Jam releases; the KISS comparisons really aren't that absurd. As you said, the attitude seems to be "if these morons are dumb enough to buy it, we'd be stupid not to sell it!" If there was something, anything, to suggest there was some kind of motivation behind this release greater than "people will buy it", I'd be more understanding.

Music really means something to me. When the band treats their own record like something that can be arbitrarily cut up, repackaged and resold at a premium, it creates the impression that it doesn't mean that much to them.

What does this have to do with the music? And how is this arbitrarily cut up? have they retracked lightning bolt?!

Hell, it's not even like it's a non music product (like lightning bolt brand yoghurt) or anything like that. It is the album repackaged in a particularly fancy way marketed to a small group of collectors who like that stuff.

I would have been bothered by this if there was a new version of a song or something that made this necessary to buy for purposes of hearing the music.

And I'm not sure the kiss comparisons are far off either, in terms of merchandising, but I also don't care since I hardly see the music existing as an excuse to sell merchandise or the merchandise that is being sold somehow altering the meaning or message of the music.

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:23 am
by southp
BurtReynolds wrote:
B wrote:It seems kinda dumb to me so I didn't buy it. Then I went on living my life as though the release of this product had no impact on it.
see I can't do that.I start feeling bad for the suckafools getting played by an evil corporation and get angry.I want someone to be punished.

I just care. I care too much.
You can stop worrying, there are penty of us who will gladly snag the copies left behind by people like yourself. I would take a lot less tshirts and more collectible vinyl all day long.

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:23 am
by stip
I do wish they'd account for BurtReynold's feelings for once, though

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:25 am
by BurtReynolds
evenslow wrote:there are plenty of things to take great umbrage with. this is not one of them. annoying sure, but nothing to get worked up about.

i have freed you of umbrage. rejoice and give thanks.
free at last!

Re: Pearl Jam: Sevens

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:27 am
by southp
stip wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:As long as the shit sells out instantly it is hard to fault 10c for making it
It's not that hard.
Are you against it because

A: it is a stupid product

B: because 10c will profit from it

C: because owning this might give someone a small, quiet bit of pleasure


Please assign each answer 1-5 stars in terms of its personal applicability
That nobody in the Pearl Jam organisation thought to say "that's a really dumb idea" seems, to me, indicative of a greater malaise. Does anyone there actually like music, follow bands, buy records? It seems hard to believe.

I'm unimpressed mainly by the cynicism I see behind the mountains of merchandise junk Pearl Jam releases; the KISS comparisons really aren't that absurd. As you said, the attitude seems to be "if these morons are dumb enough to buy it, we'd be stupid not to sell it!" If there was something, anything, to suggest there was some kind of motivation behind this release greater than "people will buy it", I'd be more understanding.

Music really means something to me. When the band treats their own record like something that can be arbitrarily cut up, repackaged and resold at a premium, it creates the impression that it doesn't mean that much to them.

What does this have to do with the music? And how is this arbitrarily cut up? have they retracked lightning bolt?!

Hell, it's not even like it's a non music product (like lightning bolt brand yoghurt) or anything like that. It is the album repackaged in a particularly fancy way marketed to a small group of collectors who like that stuff.

I would have been bothered by this if there was a new version of a song or something that made this necessary to buy for purposes of hearing the music.

And I'm not sure the kiss comparisons are far off either, in terms of merchandising, but I also don't care since I hardly see the music existing as an excuse to sell merchandise or the merchandise that is being sold somehow altering the meaning or message of the music.
In all fairness, the 7" will be at 45rpm, which can be produced with deeper grooves and therefore could potentially be the best sounding version of the album. I will definitely be spinning mine.

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:28 am
by stip
i just hope you realize that you're disrespecting the music while you're doing it

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:31 am
by southp
stip wrote:i just hope you realize that you're disrespecting the music while you're doing it
Because of the side flipping?
Much lesser evil than mp3s on an ipod through little earbuds!

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:31 am
by E.H. Ruddock
You aren't supposed to actually play them!

Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set

Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 3:32 am
by evenslow
BurtReynolds wrote:
evenslow wrote:there are plenty of things to take great umbrage with. this is not one of them. annoying sure, but nothing to get worked up about.

i have freed you of umbrage. rejoice and give thanks.
free at last!
go have a coors, burtreynolds.