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Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 5:47 am
by DeLima
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:Scentless Apprentice is an abomination.
WHAT.
Seriously stip. What.

Also Grohl wrote the riff.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 6:34 am
by matt reeder
Lament wrote:Someone at Geffen obviously thought highly enough of Bleach to sign Nirvana to a major label deal based on the strength of it. Considering it hardly fit the formula of what was selling in huge numbers at the time, that counts for something in my eyes. And Bleach very much was critically lauded upon it's release, so the idea that it's only held up because of Nevermind and In Utero doesn't really hold water in my opinion.
This.

And then there's this, which is other reason Geffen signed Nirvana. The tapes made from that session set off a bidding war amongst the major labels. It's still a great listen and one of the best "unreleased" (though released in full now, with one exception) albums you'll ever hear.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 10:54 am
by stip
Lament wrote:Someone at Geffen obviously thought highly enough of Bleach to sign Nirvana to a major label deal based on the strength of it. Considering it hardly fit the formula of what was selling in huge numbers at the time, that counts for something in my eyes. And Bleach very much was critically lauded upon it's release, so the idea that it's only held up because of Nevermind and In Utero doesn't really hold water in my opinion.
I was not aware that bleach was critically acclaimed before nevermind. Now we can just chalk this up to people being too easily impressed rather than Kurt Cobain mythologizing!

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 1:18 pm
by Jorge
We can chalk it up to you being the worst.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 1:18 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:
Lament wrote:Someone at Geffen obviously thought highly enough of Bleach to sign Nirvana to a major label deal based on the strength of it. Considering it hardly fit the formula of what was selling in huge numbers at the time, that counts for something in my eyes. And Bleach very much was critically lauded upon it's release, so the idea that it's only held up because of Nevermind and In Utero doesn't really hold water in my opinion.
I was not aware that bleach was critically acclaimed before nevermind. Now we can just chalk this up to people being too easily impressed rather than Kurt Cobain mythologizing!
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Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 2:40 pm
by stip
Platy is probably closer to the truth there, Harmless.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 2:52 pm
by epilogue
I may not agree with what Stip says, but I'll defend to the death his right to say it. Especially now that it has its own thread.

Also, Scentless Apprentice is the goddamn best kind of face-fuck rock. I LOVE it.

Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 2:54 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Stip's a MOD even! Hilarious.
yeah, but I really only mod one forum.
I's just busting your chops, friend. Personally, I like it when threads derail and become about whatever. Keeps shit exciting. Most of my favorite threads right now aren't really about what the thread title says they're about.

You do good work, is what I'm saying, I guess. You're just an idiot about Bleach. :mrgreen:

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 3:02 pm
by Alex
i know i'm probably stating what's already been said a number of times in this thread, but i don't respect stip's opinions

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 3:53 pm
by DeLima
stip was born scentless and senseless

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:10 pm
by stip
yeah, I just listened again. That song sucks. There are some real claw your ears off moments in it.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:10 pm
by stip
the rest of in utero is pretty incredible, though

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:11 pm
by stip
actually, I don't like Milk it or Tourettes either.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:11 pm
by stip
I wish I had in utero on my ipod right now. I want to listen to it

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:13 pm
by epilogue
I think Radio Friendly Unit Shifter is the only 'meh' thing about In Utero. Everything else is aces!

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:15 pm
by stip
I like Radio Friendly Unit Shifter, but it's at the bottom of the songs I like.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:17 pm
by epilogue
It's not bad, it's just not as good as the rest of the album. Still, worst song on In Utero is still pretty great.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:18 pm
by nyquillyn
stip wrote:actually, I don't like Milk it or Tourettes either.
Milk It is my favorite Nirvana song by a wide margin.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:23 pm
by epilogue
Milk It is great. Tourette's would be annoying if it was longer. But as it is, I think it's pretty brilliant. Great placement, great burst. Tongue in cheek. Yeah, it works really well, I think.

Re: ITT: Stip doesn't respect Bleach and people get upset

Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 8:30 pm
by BurtReynolds
stip wrote:actually, I don't like Milk it or Tourettes either.
stip wrote:I like Radio Friendly Unit Shifter, but it's at the bottom of the songs I like.
Scentless Apprentice is an abomination
Why are you like this? Do you think it's funny?