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LoathedVermin72 wrote:I think I'm the only person in America who has never used Spotify.

I never have.

hello, brothers

how are you this afternoon, LV? Enjoying non-streaming music?

what is spotify?

Monkey_Driven wrote:I have Spotify premium and have it set at 320 kbps. Have never had a problem with the quality since I became a subscriber.

Anyone tried Apple Music? Only person I've known to try it is my friend, but he's a huge Apple homer, so I can't really trust his opinion on it. I saw that it only streams at 256 kbps, what a buzzkill.

I'll listen to whatever bodysnatcher thinks is best.

I listened to a CD today.

Aurally

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'll listen to whatever bodysnatcher thinks is best.

Nature, ruddo. The birds, the wind, the thunderclaps. The car horns and yuppies yapping on their phones.

Strat wrote:so instead now Neil wants us to spend $450 on a pono player or $80 on one of his records.

I mean, this is it, this is what Neil is missing that really bothers me: the sort of high-fidelity music that he's a champion of (whether it be on vinyl, or coming out of a Pono, or whatever) takes a tremendous amount of capital if you want to listen to it in the "right way." He can hem and haw about how awful he thinks streamed music sounds--but even if it did (like, even if there was a noticeable difference to 99.99% of the population), to take your music off a platform that caters to people who don't want to or can't spend $40 on an album really (on the business side of things) cuts into your listener base and (on the, you know, being a nice guy and living up to the image you cultivate of yourself as just a lover of music, man side of things) shuts out people who actually want to listen. If he were making a stand about royalties or something like that, I'd understand a bit more--but for now, it's coming across to me as, "Spend more money on music, you peasants!"

Oh, and his music's still up on Spotify? I seem to remember that when other artists revolted (like Taylor Swift, I think) the music came down immediately.

bodysnatcher wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:I have Spotify premium and have it set at 320 kbps. Have never had a problem with the quality since I became a subscriber.

Anyone tried Apple Music? Only person I've known to try it is my friend, but he's a huge Apple homer, so I can't really trust his opinion on it. I saw that it only streams at 256 kbps, what a buzzkill.

I don't use any Apple hardware, software, or apps. I've heard it is competent, no better or worse than the other streaming services.

Simple Torture wrote:

Strat wrote:so instead now Neil wants us to spend $450 on a pono player or $80 on one of his records.

I mean, this is it, this is what Neil is missing that really bothers me: the sort of high-fidelity music that he's a champion of (whether it be on vinyl, or coming out of a Pono, or whatever) takes a tremendous amount of capital if you want to listen to it in the "right way." He can hem and haw about how awful he thinks streamed music sounds--but even if it did (like, even if there was a noticeable difference to 99.99% of the population), to take your music off a platform that caters to people who don't want to or can't spend $40 on an album really (on the business side of things) cuts into your listener base and (on the, you know, being a nice guy and living up to the image you cultivate of yourself as just a lover of music, man side of things) shuts out people who actually want to listen. If he were making a stand about royalties or something like that, I'd understand a bit more--but for now, it's coming across to me as, "Spend more money on music, you peasants!"

Oh, and his music's still up on Spotify? I seem to remember that when other artists revolted (like Taylor Swift, I think) the music came down immediately.

Yeah that's understandable for sure.
He's also substantially cutting his exposure to new generations who specifically use streaming apps for listening to music. His tunes won't pop up on randomized genre or artist stations. It'll be much harder to discover his catalogue. He's basically cutting the rope on the life raft that's connecting him to the ship.

Simple Torture wrote:

Strat wrote:so instead now Neil wants us to spend $450 on a pono player or $80 on one of his records.

I mean, this is it, this is what Neil is missing that really bothers me: the sort of high-fidelity music that he's a champion of (whether it be on vinyl, or coming out of a Pono, or whatever) takes a tremendous amount of capital if you want to listen to it in the "right way." He can hem and haw about how awful he thinks streamed music sounds--but even if it did (like, even if there was a noticeable difference to 99.99% of the population), to take your music off a platform that caters to people who don't want to or can't spend $40 on an album really (on the business side of things) cuts into your listener base and (on the, you know, being a nice guy and living up to the image you cultivate of yourself as just a lover of music, man side of things) shuts out people who actually want to listen. If he were making a stand about royalties or something like that, I'd understand a bit more--but for now, it's coming across to me as, "Spend more money on music, you peasants!"

Oh, and his music's still up on Spotify? I seem to remember that when other artists revolted (like Taylor Swift, I think) the music came down immediately.

I think Neil has been a bit of a jack ass for quite some time. I like and love a lot of his music but it would be a lie if I said I thought it was made with either the utmost care or concern for fidelity. Quality has not been a Neil concern until he figured he could make a buck or two at it. Now it's paramount on this front but not the actual content front it seems.

bodysnatcher wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:I have Spotify premium and have it set at 320 kbps. Have never had a problem with the quality since I became a subscriber.

Anyone tried Apple Music? Only person I've known to try it is my friend, but he's a huge Apple homer, so I can't really trust his opinion on it. I saw that it only streams at 256 kbps, what a buzzkill.

I use both Apple and Sirius to listen to music and news at work. The 256 streaming doesn't bother me as that's what my phone plays at. If I really like something I will buy it in order to support the artist and get better sound. But for background listening I do't have an issue with either Apple or Sirius.

Aren't the 256 Apple files somewhere in the ballpark of a 320 mp3?

bodysnatcher wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

Strat wrote:so instead now Neil wants us to spend $450 on a pono player or $80 on one of his records.

I mean, this is it, this is what Neil is missing that really bothers me: the sort of high-fidelity music that he's a champion of (whether it be on vinyl, or coming out of a Pono, or whatever) takes a tremendous amount of capital if you want to listen to it in the "right way." He can hem and haw about how awful he thinks streamed music sounds--but even if it did (like, even if there was a noticeable difference to 99.99% of the population), to take your music off a platform that caters to people who don't want to or can't spend $40 on an album really (on the business side of things) cuts into your listener base and (on the, you know, being a nice guy and living up to the image you cultivate of yourself as just a lover of music, man side of things) shuts out people who actually want to listen. If he were making a stand about royalties or something like that, I'd understand a bit more--but for now, it's coming across to me as, "Spend more money on music, you peasants!"

Oh, and his music's still up on Spotify? I seem to remember that when other artists revolted (like Taylor Swift, I think) the music came down immediately.

Yeah that's understandable for sure.
He's also substantially cutting his exposure to new generations who specifically use streaming apps for listening to music. His tunes won't pop up on randomized genre or artist stations. It'll be much harder to discover his catalogue. He's basically cutting the rope on the life raft that's connecting him to the ship.

My students are all between 17 and 20, and none of them listen to anything except streaming music--and, from what I can gather, they only listen to it on their phones, for the most part. Like, when they're hanging out in the lounge, they just put one person's phone in the middle of the table.

I just googled "what is Spotify"

Last night we had a friend over for dinner. We listened to a playlist on Spotify (through my phone, hooked up to my BOSE wave radio), then we listened to some vinyl record albums, and to end the night, I played the first CD of Pearl Jam live and Benaroya Hall.

So, I guess, I listen to streaming, vinyl and compact discs these days.

you are a true man of the world, joey