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Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:33 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
durdencommatyler wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Did you watch it?
i watched 5 minutes or so, then decided to see what was netflix/amazon and that's when i watched the future cult classic swiss army man
Ah. I see.

I might watch Jack Reacher one of these days. But the trailers looked so fucking stupid.
i wasn't terribly interested, but went with a friend to see it in the theater...it had its moments, but didn't do much for me overall
The first one was awful.
It sure looked it to me. And again, that's not a Tom Cruise commentary, just a comment on this particular film.

Verm got me thinking about Tom Cruise. I'm going to use this thread as an opportunity to rank/rate his films that I've seen. I'm going to rank them in order. Then off to the side I'm going to give two grades: one for Tom and one for the film itself. The Tom grade will be 1-5 (five being best) and the film's grade will be an academic type letter grade...


List to come. One minute please...
i'm genuinely looking forward to this

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:44 pm
by epilogue
Magnolia (5/A+)
Eyes Wide (4.5/A)
Legend (3.5/A)
Mission: Impossible (3.5/A)
Interview With a Vampire (4/A)
Rain Man (4.5/A-)
Vanilla Sky (3.5/B+)
Risky Business (3/B+)
A Few Good Men (3.5/B)
Jerry Maguire (2/B)
Born on the Fourth of July (4/B-)
Mission Impossible III (3/B-)
The Outsiders (2/C+)
Far and Away (2/C)
The Firm (3.5/C-)
Top Gun (4/C-)
Days of Thunder (4/C-)
Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocal (2.5/C-)
Mission Impossible II (2/D+)
Minority Report (4/D)
Austin Powers in Goldmember (1/D-)
War of the Worlds (1/D-)
Collateral (2.5/F)

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:45 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:Tom Cruise is a terrific actor, when the material is right for him. Jack Reacher is just an embarrassingly awful script -- one of those movies that made me think "They still write screenplays like this in Hollywood? This thing sounds like it's been in turnaround limbo since 1991."
Jack Reacher has an idiosyncratic script, clearly influenced by the quick banter of 1940s Hollywood. McQuarrie loves that shit. But, above all, I think the direction of that movie is fucking brilliant. Incredibly clean, efficient, calculated, subtle - just altogether wonderful. It's a masterclass of genre craftsmanship.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:46 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:War of the Worlds (1/D-)
Collateral (2.5/F)
:shake:

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:49 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:War of the Worlds (1/D-)
Collateral (2.5/F)
:shake:
Shake all you want. Those are terrible films. Just terrible. And there's nothing out there that can convince me otherwise. I saw them. With my own eyes. Trump himself can tell me I'm wrong, but I fucking WATCHED them.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:50 pm
by wease
You didn't like Minority Report?

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:50 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:War of the Worlds (1/D-)
Collateral (2.5/F)
:shake:
Shake all you want. Those are terrible films. Just terrible. And there's nothing out there that can convince me otherwise. I saw them. With my own eyes. Trump himself can tell me I'm wrong, but I fucking WATCHED them.
Oh, Joey. What am I gonna do with you? :shake: :shake:

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:52 pm
by epilogue
wease wrote:You didn't like Minority Report?
It's so stupid.

I'm not a Spielberg guy, though. So take what I say with a grain of salt.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:52 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:War of the Worlds (1/D-)
Collateral (2.5/F)
:shake:
Shake all you want. Those are terrible films. Just terrible. And there's nothing out there that can convince me otherwise. I saw them. With my own eyes. Trump himself can tell me I'm wrong, but I fucking WATCHED them.
Oh, Joey. What am I gonna do with you? :shake: :shake:
Brain transplant?

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:53 pm
by LoathedVermin72
War of the Worlds is one of the most vital American works of art in the last 20 years.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:54 pm
by epilogue
durdencommatyler wrote:
wease wrote:You didn't like Minority Report?
It's so stupid.

I'm not a Spielberg guy, though. So take what I say with a grain of salt.
Samantha Morton was outstanding in it, though. She was far and away the best part of the movie.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:54 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:War of the Worlds is one of the most vital American works of art in the last 20 years.
Fart noise

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:55 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
i haven't seen war of the worlds, but i'm a fan of both minority report and collateral (need to watch this one again though)

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:56 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Regardless of the movie, Cruise is goddamn fantastic in Collateral.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:56 pm
by epilogue
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:i haven't seen war of the worlds, but i'm a fan of both minority report and collateral (need to watch this one again though)
I'm sure you'll love War of the Worlds. I just couldn't wait for that goddamn thing to be over. It's such a fucking nightmare. A missed opportunity and a clusterfuck.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:57 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Regardless of the movie, Cruise is goddamn fantastic in Collateral.
I mean, yeah, if you like over acting or acting that revolves around a wig, sure.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:57 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Regardless of the movie, Cruise is goddamn fantastic in Collateral.
I mean, yeah, if you like over acting or acting that revolves around a wig, sure.
clearly i do

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:58 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:i haven't seen war of the worlds, but i'm a fan of both minority report and collateral (need to watch this one again though)
I'm sure you'll love War of the Worlds. I just couldn't wait for that goddamn thing to be over. It's such a fucking nightmare. A missed opportunity and a clusterfuck.
I can't imagine what opportunities were missed? All things considered, it's probably the single best movie made about 9/11.

Re: Who's Your Favorite (and Least Favorite) Actor?

Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 8:00 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Regardless of the movie, Cruise is goddamn fantastic in Collateral.
I mean, yeah, if you like over acting or acting that revolves around a wig, sure.
clearly i do
:lol:

I'm being a tad overly dramatic because it's a slow Saturday. I should watch Collateral again, honestly. I didn't care for it but I'm sure I missed some of the nuance. And Cruise honestly didn't bother me, from what I remember. You may very well be right and I'll eat a ton of crow once I watch it again.

My previous list was off the top of my head. I reserve the right to change my mind. But I really do remember thinking that the performance was flat and then OVER THE TOP and then flat and then OVER THE TOP and the WIG!

I should see it again. I just hate Michael Mann so much.