Red Mosquito

Heathen wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Anders wrote:

McParadigm wrote:"No one thinks to witness, but they will someday," in that context is the type of line that sounds like it's saying something really profound and provocative, but it really doesn't add up to anything more than just kind of moody self-importance. It's like the 'run away from your problems' equivalent of "THEN you'll be sorry!"

No, it's like leaving your home town after a bad childhood, but having enough guts to think that one day things will be better. Once you get out of this town, you will turn it around. They might not notice now, but they will. That's a great attitude to have.

Yeah, AND THEN THEY'LL BE SORRY!

That's still a bit too much ambiguous. I wish that line had the unequivocalness of Unemployable's "locker where he kept his things".

You're always saying that there's something wrong.

Lament wrote:It's kind of impressive that Ed wrote a less mature song about leaving a bad situation in his forties than he did in his twenties when he wrote Rearviewmirror.

I don't really think Ed is more or less mature now. He had already lived a full life and was an adult when writing Ten. Now he can do what he wants.

Gone however has some of his best post-2000s lyrics.

Has anyone said it's a real possibility yet?

Lament wrote:

Anders wrote:I can't agree. I think you are probably looking at it from an entirely different angle than me. It's typical Eddie Vedder really.

I agree that it's typical Eddie Vedder, but that doesn't mean it's not an unbelievably unhealthy attitude.

The unhealthy attitude is to give up, I've met a lot if people like that. Nothing beats a fighter, someone that never gives up.

Gone isn't about fighting, it's about running away.

theplatypus wrote:

Heathen wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Anders wrote:

McParadigm wrote:"No one thinks to witness, but they will someday," in that context is the type of line that sounds like it's saying something really profound and provocative, but it really doesn't add up to anything more than just kind of moody self-importance. It's like the 'run away from your problems' equivalent of "THEN you'll be sorry!"

No, it's like leaving your home town after a bad childhood, but having enough guts to think that one day things will be better. Once you get out of this town, you will turn it around. They might not notice now, but they will. That's a great attitude to have.

Yeah, AND THEN THEY'LL BE SORRY!

That's still a bit too much ambiguous. I wish that line had the unequivocalness of Unemployable's "locker where he kept his things".

You're always saying that there's something wrong.

I had typed a reply but I erased it.

Heathen wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Heathen wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Anders wrote:

McParadigm wrote:"No one thinks to witness, but they will someday," in that context is the type of line that sounds like it's saying something really profound and provocative, but it really doesn't add up to anything more than just kind of moody self-importance. It's like the 'run away from your problems' equivalent of "THEN you'll be sorry!"

No, it's like leaving your home town after a bad childhood, but having enough guts to think that one day things will be better. Once you get out of this town, you will turn it around. They might not notice now, but they will. That's a great attitude to have.

Yeah, AND THEN THEY'LL BE SORRY!

That's still a bit too much ambiguous. I wish that line had the unequivocalness of Unemployable's "locker where he kept his things".

You're always saying that there's something wrong.

I had typed a reply but I erased it.

You could go back there again.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Heathen wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Heathen wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Anders wrote:

McParadigm wrote:"No one thinks to witness, but they will someday," in that context is the type of line that sounds like it's saying something really profound and provocative, but it really doesn't add up to anything more than just kind of moody self-importance. It's like the 'run away from your problems' equivalent of "THEN you'll be sorry!"

No, it's like leaving your home town after a bad childhood, but having enough guts to think that one day things will be better. Once you get out of this town, you will turn it around. They might not notice now, but they will. That's a great attitude to have.

Yeah, AND THEN THEY'LL BE SORRY!

That's still a bit too much ambiguous. I wish that line had the unequivocalness of Unemployable's "locker where he kept his things".

You're always saying that there's something wrong.

I had typed a reply but I erased it.

You could go back there again.

Nope. Never.

Anders wrote:The unhealthy attitude is to give up, I've met a lot if people like that. Nothing beats a fighter, someone that never gives up.

It's unhealthy to be concerned about other people "witnessing" that you've left a bad situation. That's what sixteen year olds do. A grown up just leaves.

Do you do a lot of packing up and leaving bad situations, Anders? Or is this all hypothetical to you?

cutuphalfdead wrote:Gone isn't about fighting, it's about running away.

There's running away, and then there's going out to make a life (fighting). Two different things.

Anders wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Gone isn't about fighting, it's about running away.

There's running away, and then there's going out to make a life (fighting). Two different things.

It's the same thing. You'll see, and then you'll be sorry.

All Pearl Jam is about running away from your problems. I thought we'd covered this.

But there's no leaving here!

cutuphalfdead wrote:But there's no leaving here!

Fuck it. We'll disappear.

McParadigm wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:But there's no leaving here!

Fuck it. We'll disappear.

nuh nuh nuh NUHNUHNUHNUH

Hm. You have a point.

I just don't think I can get to an e-bow quickly enough.

I...I can get to an ebow?.........Faster than you can get to an ebow?

Aluminum, tastes like fear.

Lament wrote:

Anders wrote:The unhealthy attitude is to give up, I've met a lot if people like that. Nothing beats a fighter, someone that never gives up.

It's unhealthy to be concerned about other people "witnessing" that you've left a bad situation. That's what sixteen year olds do. A grown up just leaves.

Do you do a lot of packing up and leaving bad situations, Anders? Or is this all hypothetical to you?

It's not really about me, I've had a mostly good life, I'm not complaining. I have left my home town with good and bad memories, but nearly all good. I've also left friendships and relationships behind, like we all have, but I don't dwell on them (some memories of course). It's like that old saying, you don't have to die to talk about death.

It's probably similar for Ed. He loves San Diego and Chicago I'm sure, and has mostly good memories.

I think that if you leave a bad situation behind, and you do not focus on how you will succeed in the next one, how you will 'show them', then your chance of failure increases.