Red Mosquito

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:It's hardly a plan, just a little mischievious curiosity. 10C doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation for being on top of their shit, so the idea that they might fail to send someone a confirmation email for an order not scheduled to arrive for eight months doesn't seem entirely implausible. I have too active a conscience to ever attempt this (I honestly am not all that excited about the release), but it would certainly be an amusing stunt to pull off.

I bet skitch would try it for us.

CopperTom wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:Is this exactly the same as the basecamp version that leaked years ago?

This was officially released years ago - MP3 only. We'll see if this is any better

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

CopperTom wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:Is this exactly the same as the basecamp version that leaked years ago?

This was officially released years ago - MP3 only. We'll see if this is any better

Oh yeah that's right. It was Washington '95 that leaked.

Birds in Hell wrote: A chunk of Ed's banter between Jeremy and Dissident has also been removed (at his request, I can only presume).

ridleybradout wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote: A chunk of Ed's banter between Jeremy and Dissident has also been removed (at his request, I can only presume).

Or to fit it on double vinyl instead of triple?

Birds in Hell wrote:This sounds as though it's the same mix as the earlier MP3 release but the mastering is noticeably louder.

McParadigm wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:This sounds as though it's the same mix as the earlier MP3 release but the mastering is noticeably louder.

uh oh

darthvedder wrote:Wow, I just dug up my old mp3 copy from Basecamp and it sounds so much more dynamic than the FLAC copy I just bought. That truly makes me sad. Once again, I hope the vinyl sounds better.

There's also some dialog cut after Jeremy. The shoe speech "I love me, I love me, I love me...apparently they do love themselves more than Mudhoney" has been cut for the vault release.

Here's the DR numbers:

First, the FLAC:
foobar2000 1.3.9 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2015-11-26 21:37:50

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Analyzed: Pearl Jam / 1993/11/30 Las Vegas, NV
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR7 0.00 dB -7.77 dB 5:05 01-Even Flow
DR7 0.00 dB -7.60 dB 3:19 02-Once
DR7 0.00 dB -7.53 dB 4:25 03-Deep
DR6 0.00 dB -7.49 dB 5:45 04-Jeremy
DR6 0.00 dB -7.67 dB 3:39 05-Dissident
DR7 0.00 dB -9.15 dB 5:21 06-Daughter
DR6 0.00 dB -7.86 dB 3:03 07-Go
DR7 0.00 dB -7.97 dB 2:59 08-Animal
DR7 0.00 dB -7.31 dB 3:30 09-State Of Love And Trust
DR7 0.00 dB -8.17 dB 3:56 10-Tremor Christ
DR6 0.00 dB -8.61 dB 5:54 01-Black
DR6 0.00 dB -7.62 dB 2:30 02-Blood
DR6 -0.01 dB -7.62 dB 4:56 03-Alive
DR10 -6.67 dB -21.07 dB 0:24 04-Encore Break 1
DR6 0.00 dB -7.58 dB 5:06 05-Rearviewmirror
DR6 0.00 dB -7.36 dB 2:55 06-Whipping
DR6 0.00 dB -7.61 dB 3:13 07-Leash
DR6 0.00 dB -7.32 dB 6:04 08-Porch
DR10 -0.10 dB -15.39 dB 1:00 09-Encore Break 2
DR6 -0.02 dB -7.84 dB 3:50 10-Swallow My Pride
DR6 0.00 dB -8.02 dB 3:52 11-Ain't Nothing To Do
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Number of tracks: 21
Official DR value: DR7

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 927 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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MP3:
foobar2000 1.3.9 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2015-11-26 21:35:41

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Analyzed: Pearl Jam / Aladdin Theater, Las Vegas, 1993
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR11 -0.62 dB -12.90 dB 5:03 01-Evenflow
DR10 -0.76 dB -12.62 dB 3:17 02-Once
DR11 -0.56 dB -12.67 dB 4:24 03-Deep
DR10 -0.20 dB -13.06 dB 6:27 04-Jeremy
DR10 -1.17 dB -12.69 dB 3:36 05-Dissident
DR11 -0.75 dB -14.35 dB 5:26 06-Daughter
DR10 -1.35 dB -12.89 dB 3:01 07-Go
DR10 -0.92 dB -12.91 dB 2:50 08-Animal
DR10 -0.66 dB -12.57 dB 3:39 09-State Of Love And Trust
DR11 -0.12 dB -13.21 dB 3:56 10-Tremor Christ
DR10 -0.50 dB -13.63 dB 5:37 11-Black
DR11 -0.66 dB -12.89 dB 2:39 12-Blood
DR10 -0.80 dB -13.02 dB 5:16 13-Alive
DR10 -0.54 dB -12.66 dB 5:03 14-Rearview Mirror
DR10 0.00 dB -12.21 dB 2:40 15-Whippin
DR10 -1.01 dB -12.58 dB 3:10 16-Leash
DR10 -1.15 dB -12.89 dB 6:55 17-Porch
DR10 -0.70 dB -13.32 dB 3:55 18-Swallow My Pride
DR10 0.00 dB -13.11 dB 4:12 19-Ain't Nothin' To Do
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Number of tracks: 19
Official DR value: DR10

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bitrate: 256 kbps
Codec: MP3
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ridleybradout wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote: A chunk of Ed's banter between Jeremy and Dissident has also been removed (at his request, I can only presume).

Or to fit it on double vinyl instead of triple?

I just realised this cost as much as the previous triple vinyl Bellingham show did

Kevin Davis wrote:But -- they ultimately still sound ok?

given2fly23 wrote:If anybody creates an edit to insert the EV banter into the FLAC, please do let me know. I hate that every Vault show is edited in some way and only listen to the complete versions. The edits have been great and I did the Bellingham one myself and shared it here, but I'm not great at it.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:But -- they ultimately still sound ok?

I haven't sat and listened to it in full yet but I think it should be fine.

It's not a dramatic example of "brickwall" mastering or anything like that, just a bit more pushed than the earlier files.