Red Mosquito

stip wrote:Though my limited understanding is that the 'accords' are about creating an oversight body for the avengers aka that council that governed shield

durdencommatyler wrote:I guess I need to wait and see what the movie is actually about before I weigh in. But Stip's kinda shocking the hell out of me here.

bada wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

bada wrote:I'm still not sure how they do this with 12 heroes most of whom everyone knows their real names. I gotta assume they just like the title?

I'm not familiar with the source book or whatever. So I don't know what you mean. But the title makes sense based on the trailer.

Basically the government wants to register everyone with super powers. Cap and Iron man disagree (and generally act out of character) over whether this is a good idea.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I guess I need to wait and see what the movie is actually about before I weigh in. But Stip's kinda shocking the hell out of me here.

he's worse than strat

Peeps wrote:

bada wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

bada wrote:I'm still not sure how they do this with 12 heroes most of whom everyone knows their real names. I gotta assume they just like the title?

I'm not familiar with the source book or whatever. So I don't know what you mean. But the title makes sense based on the trailer.

Basically the government wants to register everyone with super powers. Cap and Iron man disagree (and generally act out of character) over whether this is a good idea.

in the comics, a group of young teens with powers (new warriors) have a reality show. they are going after a few "D" listers. in the process of trying to grab ratings one of the d listers explodes near a schoolbus and playground. many kids are killed.

between that and a few other instances the government now wants all heroes to register with the government where they will receive training and get paid and be "legit"

cap is against this because he feels working for the government will nowmake them attack dogs to go after other countries instead of stopping threats for the world.

ironman is for this because he would rather kids not do this (never mind that he was a kid when he started, as were others)

so basically this causes a divide down the hero community. some agree with tony and some with steve.

in the end steve gives up because he sees this is what the american people want

stip wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

bada wrote:Opposite.

Cap against, Tony for?

That's what I got from the trailer. But why is Stip saying Cap's on the wrong side of this? Surely "mutant registration" isn't a good thing.

You'd register a gun, wouldn't you?

yeah but owning a gun isn't like owning a superhero, stip.

TEAM SMAUG

Superpowers don't kill people. People kill people

stip wrote:I know. That wax a guns don't kill people/people kill people but of sarcasm.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I guess I need to wait and see what the movie is actually about before I weigh in. But Stip's kinda shocking the hell out of me here.

he's worse than strat

bada wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I guess I need to wait and see what the movie is actually about before I weigh in. But Stip's kinda shocking the hell out of me here.

he's worse than strat

Stip probably thinks white people doing yoga is cool.

durdencommatyler wrote: Do we really think the movie will be brave enough to follow that storyline to the end?

Peeps wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Do we really think the movie will be brave enough to follow that storyline to the end?

no but as with other storylines they will pull circumstances.

the accords are in direct response to ultron destroying the country so that takes the new warriors out of the equation.

while the heroes arent full fledged out of control tony sees them as needing to register while cap again feels the need to be autonomous with what they are sent in to combat.

in the books the civil war leveled part of NYC and thats when cap realized he was not so much in the wrong but in trying to prove his point became the types of people they sought to protect the world from.

there are a ton of other undercurrents in the storyline that add to it but wont get addressed (my guess)

such as spiderman unmasks for tony's side to show how serious this has become.

stark in the past kept a hair from one of the avengers first meetings and used it to build a cyborg thor (clor) that ends up killing a hero

the illuminatti once again gathers (charles xavier, namor, ironman, mister fantastic, blackbolt, and doctor strange

shows nick fury who has been ousted from shield helping cap in the background. he does this because he thinks something stinks at shield (he is right as it is over run with skrulls. in the movie these were lokis henchmen in the first avengers and were shape shifters. the invaded earth to subjegate its people because the illuminati invaded the skrull throne world to put a stop to the kree/skrull war)

durdencommatyler wrote:I guess I just wonder if Marvel will have the guts to end the movie with Captain America giving in and saying registration is necessary. I'm guessing not.

durdencommatyler wrote:I guess I just wonder if Marvel will have the guts to end the movie with Captain America giving in and saying registration is necessary. I'm guessing not.

Spoiler: show

or getting killed

jwfocker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I guess I just wonder if Marvel will have the guts to end the movie with Captain America giving in and saying registration is necessary. I'm guessing not.

Spoiler: show

or getting killed

Spoiler: show

Yeah, I think that's what makes the most sense and what I'd like to see most, actually.