Red Mosquito

tragabigzanda wrote:Biggest flaw for me is the 3-song lull of RM, Lukin, PT. These three haven't held up well over the years, and having them in a row puts the album lower on the list of ones I want to spin.

Out of the three you could pick... I just don't see how those stood out as a "lull" to you. Is it a production issue or a song issue?

tragabigzanda wrote:

evenslow wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Biggest flaw for me is the 3-song lull of RM, Lukin, PT. These three haven't held up well over the years, and having them in a row puts the album lower on the list of ones I want to spin.

Out of the three you could pick... I just don't see how those stood out as a "lull" to you. Is it a production issue or a song issue?

Song issue for Lukin and PT; I like those just a small fraction of the amount I did in '96. RM is just a performance issue, because there are live versions I still absolutely love (SLC'95 for example), but the album version has always underwhelmed me.

Ok. I love how Lukin stands alone in their catalogue.

I could see where PT doesn't wear as well, even if the outro is timeless.

Listened to RM a lot recently due to March Madness and I have to say, I found it sounded pretty god damn good. Felt that way about all of No Code really. It's got a rawness that keeps on giving.

evenslow wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

evenslow wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Biggest flaw for me is the 3-song lull of RM, Lukin, PT. These three haven't held up well over the years, and having them in a row puts the album lower on the list of ones I want to spin.

Out of the three you could pick... I just don't see how those stood out as a "lull" to you. Is it a production issue or a song issue?

Song issue for Lukin and PT; I like those just a small fraction of the amount I did in '96. RM is just a performance issue, because there are live versions I still absolutely love (SLC'95 for example), but the album version has always underwhelmed me.

Ok. I love how Lukin stands alone in their catalogue.

I could see where PT doesn't wear as well, even if the outro is timeless.

Listened to RM a lot recently due to March Madness and I have to say, I found it sounded pretty god damn good. Felt that way about all of No Code really. It's got a rawness that keeps on giving.

That three song run is one of my favorites in PJ's entire catalog.

Lukin should have been done like the versions done in march of 95 in australia. Other than that...that 3 run of songs are great. You idiots

As much as I could defend the other two, I just can't imagine how "Red Mosquito" could put someone into a lull. I think it's one of if not the most underrated song in their arsenal.

It slays on LO2L.

tragabigzanda wrote:

wease wrote:It slays on LO2L.

Yea, so much better. Although I miss Jack's approach, Matt does a great job on this version.

That's the definitive version.

McParadigm wrote:Ending an album with a featherweight lecture about the importance of appreciating the here and now is a move modern Pearl Jam would definitely pull, which is just one measure of what a truly terrible idea it would be.

It really starts on this album though. It's one of my bigger issues with it. I'm just not drawn to Eddie's musings on this kind of stuff.

The biggest flaws for me are

1. The sequencing of the album
2. That thing I just said
3. Eddie's vocal choices. Too nasal/neil youngish for my tastes.

No Code? Flaw?

FUCK THAT.

tragabigzanda wrote:

stip wrote:The biggest flaws for me are

1. The sequencing of the album
2. That thing I just said
3. Eddie's vocal choices. Too nasal/neil youngish for my tastes.

You paying attention MJD? Thais is how you make ridiculous claims about PJ within the structure of a very organized post.

To be fair, stip's had a lot of practice in this field.

I love No Code, but If I had to pick something to criticize....... I guess I've always felt No Code seems kinda weak, kinda lightweight. I'm not sure why, it's got some monster songs, but maybe the entire aesthetic is presenting to me a sort of lightweight quality. (Up here in my tree, newspapers matter not to me.)

Birds in Hell wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

stip wrote:The biggest flaws for me are

1. The sequencing of the album
2. That thing I just said
3. Eddie's vocal choices. Too nasal/neil youngish for my tastes.

You paying attention MJD? Thais is how you make ridiculous claims about PJ within the structure of a very organized post.

To be fair, stip's had a lot of practice in this field.

And a pretty strict training regimen

Never thaw chewed Habit!

Habit is probably one of my top 10 PJ songs