Red Mosquito

mikejasond wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

mikejasond wrote:God the ending of this book was so bad. And i don't mean the time loop stuff. That was fine. But everything else about the final book was so bad....

Books 2 and 3 were by far the best, those were awesome. I also enjoyed 5 but its bittersweet because thats when he went all meta with it

It goes:

Book 5
Book 4
Book 3
Book 1
Book 7
Book 6
Book 2

And that's basically a scientific fact. And the meta stuff is awesome, second account.

WTF?! Book 2 at last place?!?!?!?!?!? Youre crazy.

My ranking would probably be

Book 3
Book 2
Book 5
Book 7 (For sheer entertainment...even though I hate so much of what they did I was never bored)
Book 4
Book 1
Book 6

Joey, we're close.

3
4
5
1
7
6
2

CopperTom wrote:

mikejasond wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

mikejasond wrote:God the ending of this book was so bad. And i don't mean the time loop stuff. That was fine. But everything else about the final book was so bad....

Books 2 and 3 were by far the best, those were awesome. I also enjoyed 5 but its bittersweet because thats when he went all meta with it

It goes:

Book 5
Book 4
Book 3
Book 1
Book 7
Book 6
Book 2

And that's basically a scientific fact. And the meta stuff is awesome, second account.

WTF?! Book 2 at last place?!?!?!?!?!? Youre crazy.

My ranking would probably be

Book 3
Book 2
Book 5
Book 7 (For sheer entertainment...even though I hate so much of what they did I was never bored)
Book 4
Book 1
Book 6

Joey, we're close.

3
4
5
1
7
6
2

I knew I liked you for a reason.

Whatever order you have them in, the correct answer for the top 3 is definitely 3, 4 & 5.

SK tweet:

https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/733244613000069120

The Dark Tower is close, now. The Crimson King awaits. Soon Roland will raise the Horn of Eld. And blow.

I... I just came.

So, the more I'm thinking about this, the more I read speculation, the more I wonder if Katheryn Winnick is playing Susan. Which, if that's the case,

Have any of you read the Marvel graphic novels? Are they worth the time?

I tried to, especially the ones that dealt with storylines outside of the main one. The thing that eventually turned me off though is that I absolutely despise Jae Lee's art. Too damn many shadows.

But are the stories worth it? I don't have a problem with the artwork. I just want compelling stories.

Eh, it's a crap shoot. SK wasn't really in charge of them, it was more his assistant Robin Furth. So some of the stories aren't quite what you remember from the books and because of that I am suspect about the stories that are expanded in the comics, like the Fall of Gilead and the Battle of Jericho Hill. If you can find them at your local library go ahead and check them out. I can honestly say the worst that will happen is you'll finish and say, "well, that was OK."

Have any of you read the Concordance books? It's basically a hard-bound Wikipedia article on the DT books and even other books that link into the series.

Another tweet:

For those of you thinking He Who Must Not Be Named will be playing the Crimson King in THE DARK TOWER...good guess, but wrong.

Ralph Fiennes would be a terrible choice. For me the Crimson King is more gluttonish (for some reason) and I would picture Brendan Gleeson, maybe.

I don't think Fiennes is ever a terrible choice.

But I'd love to see Brendan Gleeson, too. I just want great actors. Gimme great actors.

I've read a few of the comics. The ones outside the main story like Bune. I liked them. I don't always care for Jae Lee's art but I thought it was was perfect for the Dark Tower world.

Sounds like the first movie will mostly feature book 3. Interesting.

bada wrote:Sounds like the movies will start with book 3. Interesting.

They haven't cast Eddie or Susannah yet. I'm thinking the first movie will be a mix of Gunslinger and Jake's story from Wasteland. And some stuff from book 5 mixed in as well based on the cast list. I wonder if they aren't going to introduce the breakers really early and use them as a major conflict for the film.

Here's another one from someone who has allegedly read the script. This is the kind of thing I'm seeing over and over over across the internet from various sources.

I read the draft a few times trying to make sense of how they were planning to adapt it, and it didn’t make sense to me. There were things that were drawn from all of the books in the series, and it felt like an almost arbitrary reorganization of material.

http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/s ... k-about-it

How could both of you have Book 2 in last? The Susanna section wasn't as good, but the Eddie section was phenomenal

mikejasond wrote:How could both of you have Book 2 in last? The Susanna section wasn't as good, but the Eddie section was phenomenal

The series is just that good champ. Something's gotta be at the bottom. And book 2 is kind of a mess. I loved the Odetta and Eddie sections pieces in the various NYC's. But the rest of the book drags and gets pretty confusing and tedious. It's still a good book but it's a slog at times and nowhere near as fulfilling. It's creative as hell and I love it for that. But it's still too messy.

durdencommatyler wrote:

mikejasond wrote:How could both of you have Book 2 in last? The Susanna section wasn't as good, but the Eddie section was phenomenal

The series is just that good champ. Something's gotta be at the bottom. And book 2 is kind of a mess. I loved the Odetta and Eddie sections pieces in the various NYC's. But the rest of the book drags and gets pretty confusing and tedious. It's still a good book but it's a slog at times and nowhere near as fulfilling. It's creative as hell and I love it for that. But it's still too messy.

Book 2 is my least favorite by a mile.

CopperTom wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

mikejasond wrote:How could both of you have Book 2 in last? The Susanna section wasn't as good, but the Eddie section was phenomenal

The series is just that good champ. Something's gotta be at the bottom. And book 2 is kind of a mess. I loved the Odetta and Eddie sections pieces in the various NYC's. But the rest of the book drags and gets pretty confusing and tedious. It's still a good book but it's a slog at times and nowhere near as fulfilling. It's creative as hell and I love it for that. But it's still too messy.

Book 2 is my least favorite by a mile.

Mine too. But again, that just shows you how strong the series is. Because it's not like Book 2 is a bad book.

I don't know that I could rank them. I agree that the meta stuff is flawed in execution, but i still enjoy the last three books a good deal. Book 7, especially, in part because it was the first book to really give me an emotional gut punch. I think 3-5 do the best job at tale spinning and world-building.

And then, I've also got a special place for The Wind Through the Keyhole since it's so relaxed (mostly) and makes everything seem like it's okay for a bit. It also does a good job of recapturing some of the dense mistiness of the mythology from before things started getting cleared up (and honestly, a bit clumsy).

I mean Book 1 bored me, to the point where I honestly wasn't going to keep reading. I was also mad at Roland for letting Jake die. And the writing was pretty stupid at times - "Go then, there are other worlds than these" because that's what a kid would say as he drops to his death. I know he wasn't just a normal kid but I still think that part was really stupid.

Then I was like 'eh Ill try book 2' and oh man it was such a different ride. It was like a totally different book altogether. I LOVED the part of Roland seeing the world through Eddie's eyes. It was so bizarre but so good. That whole book was cool, the only thing I didnt like was Odetta/Detta - that was boring, but the other doors I really enjoyed - especially Eddie's. The third book continued that momentum and made it even better.