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durdencommatyler wrote:The man lit a fucking cat on fire. And ran his sister off the fucking road and pointed a gun at her.

Didn't he whack off when she drove by or something?

It was his cousin with whom he always had a bad relationship with. She was driving by and he whipped it out and started stroking himself to taunt her.

I mean, who hasn't done that?

You've never witnessed a whip out and stroke during your commute?

Classic packer fans really

Interesting. According to ABC News:

On the other hand, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that one juror was the father of an employee of the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Department and another was the husband of a woman who was employed by the Manitowoc County clerk of courts office.

durdencommatyler wrote:Interesting. According to ABC News:

On the other hand, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that one juror was the father of an employee of the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Department and another was the husband of a woman who was employed by the Manitowoc County clerk of courts office.

sigh

Making a Murderer Attorney Refutes Prosecutor's Claims That Steven Avery Was Obsessed with Teresa Halbach

http://www.people.com/people/article/0, ... 53,00.html

While speaking with Megyn Kelly on Fox News Tuesday night, Dean Strang, the former attorney for Netflix's Making a Murderer subject Steven Avery, addressed some of the evidence that former prosecutor Ken Kratz told PEOPLE was omitted from the popular docu-series.

Strang insisted that contrary to Kratz's assertions, Avery was not obsessed with Teresa Halbach and that his call to AutoTrader magazine on the day of the murder, [Oct. 31, 2005], in which he requested "that same girl who was here last time" to photograph his sister's van was just a sign that he appreciated her work.

"It suggests that she had done a good job photographing a car that the family had sold earlier and now Steven's sister was selling another car and he thought she'd been a good photographer," Strang said.

Kratz previously told PEOPLE that when Avery called the magazine the day of the murder, he pretended to be his sister, Barb Janda by providing her name and number to lure her over to his house. Kratz said that Halbach told her boss that Avery "creeped [her] out."

But while speaking with Kelly, Strang said that Halbach had told colleagues at AutoTrader "she was going to the Avery property out on Avery road." He added, "She knew where she was going. No illusions about that, no concealment of that."

However, since Janda lived on the same property with Avery, Halbach could have known she was going to the Avery property without knowing that she would be seeing Avery himself.

Strang Addresses '*67 Calls' Avery Placed To Halbach

Strang also addressed the three calls Avery made to Halbach that day: Two of them used the *67 feature, which hid his identity, and one did not.

"Phone records show three calls from Avery to Teresa's cell phone on Oct. 31," Kratz said in an interview last week. "One at 2:24 [p.m.], and one at 2:35 – both calls Avery uses the *67 feature so Teresa doesn't know it's him...both placed before she arrives.

"Then one last call at 4:35 p.m., without the *67 feature. Avery first believes he can simply say she never showed up…so he tries to establish the alibi call after she's already been there, hence the 4:35 call. She will never answer of course, so he doesn't need the *67 feature for that last call."

But Strang said that Avery was merely protecting his privacy. "The fact that he tried to protect his privacy with two *67 calls tells us nothing at all about who killed Teresa," he said.

Strang also spoke about the "sweat" that Kratz said Avery allegedly left under the hood of Halbach's car. "There was no evidence of sweat, there was evidence of DNA, Steven's DNA, transferred," he said.

"The sweat theory was just Mr. Kratz's theory," he added, saying Avery's DNA could have come from anywhere. "His skin, a DCI agent's glove…could have transferred that DNA under the hood," said Strang.

Avery is currently serving life in prison without the possibility for parole.

Making a Murderer killer Steven Avery claims his BROTHERS may have murdered Teresa Halbach and then framed him due to family dispute.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... spute.html

Finished Episode 4 of this last night. I have to say at this stage it looks so much like Avery was set up

Oh no, you gotta get that Truecoat!

durdencommatyler wrote:Making a Murderer killer Steven Avery claims his BROTHERS may have murdered Teresa Halbach and then framed him due to family dispute.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... spute.html

Didnt that one brother say that he thought Steven was guilty? Had to be him. Fucking douche.

So Anonymous is holding onto 'Evidence' in this huh. When is Dave Grohl gonna name-drop Steven?
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 90546.html

Rangi Guy wrote:So Anonymous is holding onto 'Evidence' in this huh. When is Dave Grohl gonna name-drop Steven?
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 90546.html

How awesome would that be if true?

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Rangi Guy wrote:So Anonymous is holding onto 'Evidence' in this huh. When is Dave Grohl gonna name-drop Steven?
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 90546.html

How awesome would that be if true?

I would love this so much. enough of their threats. its time for them to deliver.

For what ever reason Dolores reminded me of Yoda

just finished chapter 3. This reminds me of the west memphis 3.

I find it pretty ironic that a couple of my gun-toting, anti-government redneck relatives are defending the cops after watching this.

turned2black wrote:I find it pretty ironic that a couple of my gun-toting, anti-government redneck relatives are defending the cops after watching this.

Really? I think that falls right in line. At least with the gun toting rednecks im familiar with in my life. Sure, they hate government, but they also back police officers and think they can do no wrong. Mostly because, black people hate cops right now and well....

Backwards and inconsistent thought patterns are par for the course for these types, is my point.

Getting into Episode 7.

Man, this looks so made up. If it was a movie, it would be such a lazy script....everything seems so weird.

I binge watched this over the weekend, and holy shit, I'm now obsessed with it.

I rewatched about 3 episodes with my wife after I made her watch it.

Thoughts-

1) I do find it hard to believe that the cops straight up killed her and framed Avery for it. I find it much more plausible that she committed suicide or someone else accidentally/purposefully killed her, and the local cops found out. Then they decided to pin it on him to save face and get rid of the bad pub and potential consequences of the wrongful conviction.

2) How does this evidence not just completely throw the state's theory out the window ?!?
a) her matted bloody hair stain in the back of her own SUV, plus the evidence that the bones were
moved?!?! She clearly wasn't killed on property and burned there. Her dead body was transferred from somewhere.
b) No blood or any other of her DNA anywhere in the garage or trailer other than the one suspiciously found bullet?
c) The bus driver saw her taking photographs as the Dassey kids were dropped off from school, this completely kills the entire theory of the timeline

3) Because of the bus driver testimony (most credible timeline), you have to look at the other Dassey kid and his step-dad, who "would be able to exactly say what time" they saw each other. They are each other's alibi's, and their timelines don't match the most credible timeline witness. Maybe they killed her, cops found out, and decided to pin it on Avery for their mutual benefit.

4) But even with all of that, the coerced confession from Brendan, plus the interviewing of Kayla is the most deplorable thing in the whole mess. And that was Calumet county, not Manitowoc. What's most disgusting is it seems that's status quo for police interrogations everywhere, and that scares the shit out of me. Those people should fucking rot in hell for what they did to those kids. And then to accuse them of lying about it???

5) Most of this could have been prevented if any of that family had any sense at all. Steven seems like the intelligent one of the bunch. They seem to generally be fucking clueless about everything, and they're just taken advantage of the whole way though. "What's 'inconsistent' mean, mom".... "uh... I don't know, Brendan". Jesus.

hlniv wrote:I binge watched this over the weekend, and holy shit, I'm now obsessed with it.

I rewatched about 3 episodes with my wife after I made her watch it.

Thoughts-

1) I do find it hard to believe that the cops straight up killed her and framed Avery for it.

Are people actually saying that though? That's absurd. I haven't seen/heard anyone saying that.