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Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Thu September 23, 2021 2:27 pm
by McParadigm
More, from the same paper:
“We are dealing with this really new type of migration which are these Haitians coming from mainly Brazil and Chile,” said Roberto Velasco, the chief officer for North America at Mexico’s foreign ministry. “They are mainly looking for jobs, they come from third countries so repatriation is difficult.”

Following the catastrophic 2010 earthquake in Haiti, tens of thousands of Haitians headed southward to Chile and Brazil in search of jobs in two of South America’s richest countries. To get there, many undertook an arduous overland journey across the continent through the Amazon and the Andes.

But as the pandemic has battered the Brazilian and other South American economies, work opportunities have proved increasingly scarce: Only a net of about 500 Haitians gained formal jobs in Brazil in the first five months of this year, compared with around 2,000 in the same period in 2019, according to Brazil’s latest migration statistics.

In Chile, the exodus of Haitians has also been driven by the government’s increasingly restrictive immigration policy. President Sebastián Piñera has tightened border controls and visa rules and increased deportations of undocumented migrants after being overwhelmed by the influx of Venezuelans and Haitians fleeing economic collapse and violence in their countries.

Many Haitians have also suffered from discrimination in Chile, a nation that a decade ago had no significant Black population. “Anti-Black racism is one of the main driving forces of people leaving Chile in search of protection,” Ms. Jozef said.

The number of visas issued to Haitians in Chile collapsed to just 3,000 so far this year from the peak of 126,000 in 2018, according to the country’s migration statistics. In fact, more Haitians have left than arrived in Chile this year, dramatically reversing a prepandemic trend.

“The movement of Haitians from Chile and other South American countries shows that migration is not just a simple journey of you move once and then you’re done,” said Cris Ramón, an immigration consultant based in Washington, D.C. “People are making a far more complex journey to the United States, it isn’t just that there’s an earthquake in Haiti so people are going to migrate.”

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 12:26 pm
by elliseamos
At least 368,000 Ukrainian refugees have arrived in neighboring countries, the UN's refugee agency announced on Twitter on Sunday. That's more than double the agency's estimates from Saturday.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Wed March 02, 2022 12:09 am
by elliseamos
UN: 677,000 Ukrainian refugees have fled since Russian invasion began.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Sat March 12, 2022 12:17 am
by elliseamos
More than 2.5 million refugees have fled Ukraine since Russia launched its unprovoked invasion, according to UN refugee agency data on Friday.

President Biden said Friday that the United States will welcome Ukrainians displaced by Russia's unprovoked invasion "with open arms."

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Sat March 12, 2022 12:21 am
by Anders
Biggest in Europe since WW2.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 1:49 am
by elliseamos
More than 4 million refugees have fled Ukraine since Russia launched its unprovoked invasion, according to United Nations refugee agency data on Wedneday. The U.N. refugee agency has labeled the exodus the fastest-growing refugee crisis in Europe since World War II.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 11:17 am
by elliseamos
More than 5 million refugees have fled Ukraine since Russia launched its unprovoked invasion, according to United Nations refugee agency data on Wednesday.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 2:02 pm
by BurtReynolds
Looked up at the TV at the coffee shop to see a satanic morning propaganda show talk about "thousands of Russians flee wartime repression". Like I'm sure they're not just fleeing sanctions on their paychecks lol.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 5:49 pm
by elliseamos
Can't it be both? It is a war of choice.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 6:04 pm
by BurtReynolds
No.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Thu September 07, 2023 11:45 am
by Bi_3
Oh no, not the consequences of my actions!

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Thu September 07, 2023 12:11 pm
by spike
Bi_3 wrote:Oh no, not the consequences of my actions!
Counterpoint!

https://www.fwd.us/news/new-york-economy/

Immigration into NYC is historically kind of a big deal for the metropolis. Like what made it what it is.

Definitely not a politician leveraging a hot button issue to advance initiatives that are actually on his mind.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Thu September 07, 2023 12:38 pm
by Bi_3
spike wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Oh no, not the consequences of my actions!
Counterpoint!

https://www.fwd.us/news/new-york-economy/

Immigration into NYC is historically kind of a big deal for the metropolis. Like what made it what it is.

Definitely not a politician leveraging a hot button issue to advance initiatives that are actually on his mind.
lol

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Thu September 07, 2023 2:39 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:Oh no, not the consequences of my actions!
As ever, I appreciate when someone publicly puts their name to an assertion this direct. It grants us all the option to reflect back on it in the coming months, and decidedly say whether it was proven true or false by the passage of time.

Either way, a lesson is there to be learned if we are open to learning it.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Fri September 08, 2023 3:58 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote: As ever, I appreciate when someone publicly puts their name to an assertion this direct. It grants us all the option to reflect back on it in the coming months, and decidedly say whether it was proven true or false by the passage of time.

Either way, a lesson is there to be learned if we are open to learning it.
Some already know the answer: out of sight, out of mind

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Tue October 03, 2023 1:49 pm
by Bi_3


Perhaps some kind of... I don't know... "wall" might help slow the flow in until infrastructure is built to support them?

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Tue October 31, 2023 10:25 pm
by spike
First snow of the season this afternoon. Noticed a snow covered tent city across the street from a downtown Target I frequent. Had been wondering about the beefed up security in the store and people using a wall socket by the elevators to charge their phones. Going to be a weird winter in Chicago.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Mon February 05, 2024 3:46 pm
by McParadigm
The Senate unveiled its border bill. House Republicans immediately declared it dead.
Senate negotiators released the long-awaited text of their bipartisan border security deal Sunday night, a months-in-the-making effort that would dramatically reorganize the U.S. asylum system while giving the president new emergency powers to limit the flow of migrants into the country.

“We’re radically changing the way we’re spending dollars on border security and the asylum process,” said Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, I-Ariz., who led talks alongside Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla. and Chris Murphy, D-Conn.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer announced plans for a procedural vote on the new border bill Wednesday as part of a broad national security package wrapping the measure together with aid to Ukraine and Israel. His Republican counterpart, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, called on the Senate to “carefully consider the opportunity in front of us and prepare to act.”

Republicans last year demanded that Democrats agree to stricter border policies in return for unlocking new military support for Kiev. But the deal’s future is already in question thanks to strong opposition from House Republicans, whose leaders immediately slammed the border proposal as an unacceptable sop to liberals shortly after its debut.

THE DETAILS
To satisfy immigration hawks, the agreement would create a stricter asylum process while providing the president new emergency powers allowing for the quick expulsion of migrants. Among other measures, it would:

Significantly limit the president’s ability to let migrants temporarily settle in the country temporarily under humanitarian parole while their asylum cases are pending, ending a practice often derided as “catch and release.”

Raise the standard for initial asylum screenings, which would be heard within 90 days.
Take asylum cases out of the hands of immigration judges — who currently have a 3-million-case backlog — and place them under Department of Homeland Security officials, who would be required to resolve them within six months.

Allow the president to halt all new asylum claims by migrants, unless they arrive at an official port of entry, if border crossings pass 4,000 per day over a two-week period. The pause would become mandatory if crossings hit 5,000 per day. Migrants who arrive between ports of entry, such as by crossing the Rio Grande, would be promptly expelled without a hearing.

Of the policy measures, the new emergency powers have arguably garnered the most attention. “We are creating this emergency authority so that when the system is overwhelmed, we can shut it down,” Sinema told reporters. President Biden would exercise that emergency authority “immediately on day one” given current levels, a senior Biden administration official told reporters Sunday night. However, Republicans have attacked it, arguing the president should be able to shut down asylum claims if there are any illegal crossings.

Along with policy changes, the bill would also include billions more in funding for policing the border — including $650 million allocated for further construction of the border wall.

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Mon February 05, 2024 4:55 pm
by Bi_3
4999 * 365 = 1.824M/year.

And every restriction is "at the discretion of the president". How is that a secure border?

Re: The Refugee Crisis

Posted: Mon February 05, 2024 5:58 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:4999 * 365 = 1.824M/year.

And every restriction is "at the discretion of the president". How is that a secure border?
No comprehensive immigration bill can pass the Senate without 60 votes. No circumstances exist where the Republican Party ends this election cycle with 60 votes. The options for both sides of the aisle are: compromise bill, or no immigration bill.

This is co-written by Republicans, advocated for by Republicans, includes more than half a billion dollars for restoration and expansion of the border wall, restricts and streamlines asylum, grants expansive presidential powers to shut down the border at a time when the Republican presidential candidate is passionately anti-immigration, and in no way prevents future attempts by the legislative bodies to pass additional immigration legislation.

It would be just as easy for the Republican Party to campaign on it as a legislative victory… “see, we forced Joe Biden to acknowledge the problem at the border,” …as it would be for the Democrats to campaign on “gosh gee see we’re trying.”

What do you see as the active downsides to the bill? Not the “doesn’t do enough” part, because it can always be expanded upon later. But in a world where comprehensive immigration reform requires 60 votes in the Senate and therefore bipartisan legislation, what is gained by not passing it?