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Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:36 am
by McParadigm
So we are agreed. Old people shouldn't have the right to vote.
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:36 am
by 96583UP
England may regret this when the ice caps melt and they are in need of passage to dry land
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:41 am
by LetMeSleep
Apparently there is fine print and this referendum may not be legally binding.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 93381.html
A really crucial detail about the upcoming EU referendum has gone virtually unmentioned and it is probably the most crucial detail: Parliament doesn't actually have to bring Britain out of the EU if the public votes for it.
That is because the result of June 23 referendum on Britain's EU membership is not legally binding. Instead, it is merely advisory, and, in theory, could be totally ignored by UK government.
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:42 am
by 96583UP
this referendum is not legally binding yet
article 50 of the EU treaty must be invoked
given the relatively close margin of victory, wouldn't be surprised if there are challenges to the referenfum's legitimacy over the coming months
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:43 am
by 96583UP
we were thinking about and typing the same thing at the same time but from different parts of the planet
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:44 am
by LetMeSleep
96583UP wrote:we were thinking about and typing the same thing at the same time but from different parts of the planet
What a time to be alive.
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:46 am
by 96583UP
let's run off to "K" and open a florist shop together
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:47 am
by LetMeSleep
96583UP wrote:let's run off to "K" and open a florist shop together
True story: My grandfather's business was to provide flowers to florist shops in Hampshire, UK.
It's in me blood.
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:51 am
by BurtReynolds
Birds in Hell wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:
What is the point of this? I see it everywhere. Yes, old people will die sooner. Should their vote count less because they will die earlier? "lucky" bastards.
And as you pointed out earlier, great numbers of those currently young and idealistic voters will probably drift towards more sensible and conservative views over time.
Why do old people even bother voting? They'll just be dead soon anyway. the old people are just trolling.
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:54 am
by Birds in Hell
96583UP wrote:this referendum is not legally binding yet
article 50 of the EU treaty must be invoked
given the relatively close margin of victory, wouldn't be surprised if there are challenges to the referenfum's legitimacy over the coming months
This is seriously unhinged. What degree of hatred for the general public must you have to think this is a good idea?
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:55 am
by 96583UP
LetMeSleep wrote:96583UP wrote:let's run off to "K" and open a florist shop together
True story: My grandfather's business was to provide flowers to florist shops in Hampshire, UK.
It's in me blood.
the universe has drawn us together
to bring our flower power to the "K"
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 12:57 am
by 96583UP
Birds in Hell wrote:96583UP wrote:this referendum is not legally binding yet
article 50 of the EU treaty must be invoked
given the relatively close margin of victory, wouldn't be surprised if there are challenges to the referenfum's legitimacy over the coming months
This is seriously unhinged. What degree of hatred for the general public must you have to think this is a good idea?
i didn't say it was a good or bad idea
just a statement of fact
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 1:00 am
by Birds in Hell
96583UP wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:96583UP wrote:this referendum is not legally binding yet
article 50 of the EU treaty must be invoked
given the relatively close margin of victory, wouldn't be surprised if there are challenges to the referenfum's legitimacy over the coming months
This is seriously unhinged. What degree of hatred for the general public must you have to think this is a good idea?
i didn't say it was a good or bad idea
just a statement of fact
I know, sorry if that wasn't clear. I just think the whole idea is bonkers.
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 1:06 am
by LetMeSleep
Seeing as some lies in the Leave campaign are surfacing already, many Leave voters reporting regret coupled with a potentially unstable UK (and EU and then subsequent probable depression in England) then a second referendum is a possibility. I don't believe the government would just over rule the public wish.
Additionally, I have seen a report stating that if the result was under 60% (51.8%) and the voting turnout was under 75% (71%) then a second referendum can be forced.
There's a lot of sketchy reports being made so who knows what is and what will never be.
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 1:12 am
by 96583UP
it is my bad BIH, I see now it was a reference to "one" or the "general you"
that's interesting LMS, as I was just tabulating that the will of the general public doesn't seem totally concise in this case
64.1 million people in the UK
1,269,501 vote victory for "Leave"
so if 1,269,501 votes / 2 = 634,750 people changed their vote to "Remain", it would be a tie
634,750 / 64,100,000 = 1% of the population
so 1% of the UK population is the determining factor in whether the UK remains in the EU or leaves ... ?
what's the margin of error on this voting process?
how many people have second thoughts now?
how many people couldn't make it to the polls that day and regret not voting?
for a 1% victory on a non legally binding yet vote, it seems like politicians are going to have grey area in which they could wrangle to preserve the will of the minority of the opulent and the majority of the millennial
it's what politicians do
this is going to be a shit show
can C-SPAN start covering British Parliament? I think Cosmo Kramer used to be able to get Canadian Parliament on some channel...
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 1:19 am
by Birds in Hell
The people will continue voting until they get it right, goddamn it!
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 1:30 am
by LetMeSleep
It's always the bloody 1%.
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 3:23 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Henery Hawk wrote:And even better good riddance to Cameron total fucking failure just like that POS in the WH.
I'm sad to hear that the Whiskey Hut lost their Point Of Sale system. We should get on Kickstarter right away, or at least have a bake sale.
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 3:31 am
by E.H. Ruddock
More like the British exit amirite
Re: The Brexit
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 7:34 am
by LetMeSleep