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Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 4:49 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:13 pm
by digster
Tuolumne wrote:
One thing I wonder about with respect to Dave A: Vitalogy is, I believe, the one and only album where the whole band is listed in the songwriting credit (ie "all songs written by Pearl Jam"). Was that some sort of guilt-ridden olive branch to Dave? Like, he gets to join in the publishing royalties? We all know Ed was the point person on Vitalogy, and in many ways could be the closest thing to being the first Ed solo record. Of all albums, why would that one list "all songs written by Pearl Jam"? And frickin Betterman is credited to the whole band? If my crazy theory is true, maybe that's why they don't feel too guilty about the Dave A firing? Like, Ed gave up some Betterman writing credits to the band (and therefore Dave A) cause he felt guilty about how he handled the whole thing. Am I crazy?
Betterman's credited to Ed, I believe...I think they did that because they've said a lot of those songs post-Ten sprang from jams. I think once they started moving towards using demos as springboards they moved towards individual writing credits.
And yeah, I don't have much to add beyond any system that includes Dave K. but keeps out Jack and Dave A. is a bit screwy.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:17 pm
by Kevin Davis
"Nothingman" is credited to Jeff, and "Satan's Bed" to Stone. It's a sort of "All songs by Pearl Jam, except..." kind of thing.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:20 pm
by Strat
I can understand not including Jack Irons but Dave A is pretty absurd. I do hope something happens.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:21 pm
by lowlight79
We should all grow soul patches in protest for Dave A.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:30 pm
by Kevin Davis
Strat wrote:I can understand not including Jack Irons but Dave A is pretty absurd. I do hope something happens.
It should be all of them. What is the point of picking and choosing? Do they save money or something by inducting fewer people, apart from the cost of the damned trophies?
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:36 pm
by Strat
Kevin Davis wrote:Strat wrote:I can understand not including Jack Irons but Dave A is pretty absurd. I do hope something happens.
It should be all of them. What is the point of picking and choosing? Do they save money or something by inducting fewer people, apart from the cost of the damned trophies?
With pearl jam, i agree. But there are some instances where youc ould have like 30 people on stage. I dont know. I dont really care I guess. But since we are having the discussion on who should and shouldnt, i vote Dave K, Dave A, and Matt C.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:45 pm
by VinylGuy
Dave and Jackie belong in that stage. Thats it.
Cornell could be a good choice for the induction...Casablancas too...
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:52 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
VinylGuy wrote:Dave and Jackie belong in that stage. Thats it.
Cornell could be a good choice for the induction...Casablancas too...
How does Matt not belong on stage when he has been in the band longer than any of the other drummers, and is the current drummer?!
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:53 pm
by Strat
and he wrote evacuation, get right, in the moonlight, and countless other top shelf PJ songs?
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 5:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 6:18 pm
by gardenparty
I'm calling John Mayer to introduce
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 6:18 pm
by Kevin Davis
Does the hall specifically induct artists for particular works, or for the totality of their achievements?
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 6:38 pm
by VinylGuy
E.H. Ruddock wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Dave and Jackie belong in that stage. Thats it.
Cornell could be a good choice for the induction...Casablancas too...
How does Matt not belong on stage when he has been in the band longer than any of the other drummers, and is the current drummer?!
of course Matt and Dave K belong there too, nobody is dissing them, not even the rrhf...they already stablished that they will be there.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 7:27 pm
by epilogue
Iholdthepain wrote:I mean... WTF? This shit is honestly why I should quit posting on RM. Unnecessary jabs, which I have typically fought back against. That strategy has only ever backfired, so... Fuck it!
Congrats, Joe! Big vanquishment victory for you
Again, I have to ask.... what?
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 7:31 pm
by wease
Kevin Davis wrote:Does the hall specifically induct artists for particular works, or for the totality of their achievements?
Yes.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 7:40 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
durdencommatyler wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:I mean... WTF? This shit is honestly why I should quit posting on RM. Unnecessary jabs, which I have typically fought back against. That strategy has only ever backfired, so... Fuck it!
Congrats, Joe! Big vanquishment victory for you
Again, I have to ask.... what?
no, thip, please don't go, again. good thing you've never quit before so we believe you now.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 7:47 pm
by bodysnatcher
I hope Ian MacKaye introduces them and just burns the whole thing to the ground
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 7:49 pm
by spike
lowlight79 wrote:We should all grow soul patches in protest for Dave A.
Dave Abbruzzese Responds To Pearl Jam Rock Hall of Fame Snub
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Wed October 19, 2016 7:49 pm
by dimejinky99
Vs is 23 years old today.