Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Thu March 14, 2013 9:46 pm
by McParadigm
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Hell, Just Breathe uses the same progression as Stand By Me and Sam Cooke's Loveable. The only difference is that it runs I-V-vi-IV rather than I-vi-IV-V.
Which version of Just Breathe is that?
I'm at work and pulling this from memory, so errors will occur.
Transposing so that each song is being played in the key of C, the verses look something like this:
Just Breathe
starts as: back and forth between C and G
"stay with me....": Am and F
Which is really I V I V I V vi IV, but I'm simplifying here.
Stand By Me
C Am F G
Chain Gang (apologies....I said Lovable before, but I'm pretty sure Chain Gang and Cupid are the ones that best adhere to this)
C Am F G
You can change the key, or adjust the order of the chords a bit, but the basic structure that you're building from is the same. Last Kiss uses it. Unchained Melody, too. Beast of Burden. A lot of pop, rock and country songs.
Not that chord progression is the end all be all of musical connection. I'm just using it to illustrate a larger truth about the connection between what might be termed country music and what might be termed r&b or soul music.
Can you point to a few classic country songs that share some elements with "Come Back"? I'm just not hearing it, other than a few twangy arpeggios. I guess Ed does sound a bit like Patsy Cline.
In terms of writing, that lyrical trick of letting each verse slide its way into the title phrase at its end, and then letting the chorus sections be wordy extensions of that key thought, is a lot more common to old school country than to Stax era r&b. But....do me a favor and give this about 60 seconds while you think about the words and vocal wobble of Come Back. I think this performance does a lot to illustrate how easily Come Back would fit into Nelson's approach.
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Thu March 14, 2013 10:05 pm
by Blenheim Augustine
Ok - I got confused because Just Breathe alternates a few times between the C and the G before going to the minor but I can see what you did there.
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Thu March 14, 2013 10:12 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
Scratch that.
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri March 15, 2013 2:20 am
by KurtLeon
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Scratch that.
okay.
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Sat March 16, 2013 2:57 am
by dkfan9
KurtLeon wrote:
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Scratch that.
okay.
i refuse
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Sat March 16, 2013 4:41 pm
by epilogue
dkfan9 wrote:
KurtLeon wrote:
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Scratch that.
okay.
i refuse
Come on, don't be a dick,fan9. SCRATCH THAT
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Sun March 17, 2013 8:01 pm
by dkfan9
durdencommatyler wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
KurtLeon wrote:
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Scratch that.
okay.
i refuse
Come on, don't be a dick,fan9. SCRATCH THAT
but my mommy said to leave it alone and it'll just go away
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Wed March 20, 2013 5:28 pm
by dimejinky99
Elaborate pj april fools day hoaxes. Never understood the attraction.
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Wed March 20, 2013 5:29 pm
by KurtLeon
dimejinky99 wrote:Elaborate pj april fools day hoaxes. Never understood the attraction.
ALFORD PLEAS!!!
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Wed March 20, 2013 5:32 pm
by dimejinky99
They're guilty as charged:)
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:13 am
by Jorge
mikejasond
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:27 am
by PHATJ
theplatypus wrote:mikejasond
Truth.
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:41 am
by mikejasond
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:42 am
by PHATJ
mikejasond wrote:
This guy
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:51 pm
by stip
I can't wait to enjoy the build up to a new album with mikejasond
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:35 pm
by Leatherhead
Pearl Jam should focus on more slow and atmospheric songs in their older age. Ridiculous when the best songs of the last few albums have been the heavier ones.
Pearl Jam are too old to be rocking hard. Stupid.
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:36 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:38 pm
by Jorge
Or they could just rock hard... better.
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:41 pm
by mikejasond
Leatherhead wrote:Pearl Jam should focus on more slow and atmospheric songs in their older age. Ridiculous when the best songs of the last few albums have been the heavier ones.
Pearl Jam are too old to be rocking hard. Stupid.
Well most of those rocking songs Eddie can't perform live anymore. I think a lot of those slow atmospheric songs they do really well. But LB is IMO one of their best later year songs, even better live if Eddie could sing it it'd be something special. But I also really like how Sleeping With Myself sounds and Pendulum is cool...LB had a couple good tracks
Re: Pearl Jam fan opinions that VEX, CONFOUND AND BAFFLE you
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:46 pm
by dimejinky99
Vexes all hell outta me when lapsed PJ fans assume there WILL be another album by PJ.
Especially after a tour when they've now played their best albums in order.
Bros are saying goodbye fellas. It's game over after this summer.