Red Mosquito

I honestly thought everyone was talking about the Thor actor until just now.

bart wrote:I honestly thought everyone was talking about the Thor actor until just now.

That guy doesn't need to be a creeper to get people to sleep with him. Hell I probably would he's so good looking

Yeah so those break-up texts between Hardwick and his "accuser" really make her claims sound like a load of horseshit. Maybe that's why we ought to not rush to judgment and take people's careers away before all the information is out there.

I’m with meatwad on this one.

Yeah uhhhhh I don’t know if it does

That XXXtenaction (sp?) guy should be in this thread after some of the news coming out about him.

News? He’s been confirmed abusive slime for a long time.

meatwad wrote:Yeah so those break-up texts between Hardwick and his "accuser" really make her claims sound like a load of horseshit. Maybe that's why we ought to not rush to judgment and take people's careers away before all the information is out there.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't see a conflict in their accounts?

LoathedVermin72 wrote:News? He’s been confirmed abusive slime for a long time.

He'll still be missed

Controlling boyfriend or psycho ex girlfriend? Unless you know them personally, the only correct answer is probably "I don't know, why you axeing me? leave me alone, TMZ!"

BurtReynolds wrote:Controlling boyfriend or psycho ex girlfriend? Unless you know them personally, the only correct answer is probably "I don't know, why you axeing me? leave me alone, TMZ!"

*Abusive boyfriend

The long, extremely detailed breakup text that he sent her doesn't seem to me to be written by someone who was abusive. In fact, it seems quite the opposite. She cheated on him, she was toxic, he never wants to speak to her again but will maintain civility in the public eye toward her and their relationship. Then you have her continue reaching out, even months after he laid it all out to her pretty succinctly. He does not respond. Doesn't really strike me as an abusive, controlling, manipulative monster.

meatwad wrote:The long, extremely detailed breakup text that he sent her doesn't seem to me to be written by someone who was abusive.

Wow this is terrible, terrible logic

Rangi Guy wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:News? He’s been confirmed abusive slime for a long time.

He'll still be missed

He got what he deserved.

theplatypus wrote:

meatwad wrote:The long, extremely detailed breakup text that he sent her doesn't seem to me to be written by someone who was abusive.

Wow this is terrible, terrible logic

It's no different than the logic that says "well she said it so it must be true because I don't like his podcast." Again I'm not sure how so many people can be experts on a private relationship between two people that ended years ago because one person cheated on the other, enough so that it's OK to ruin someone's career based on allegations alone.

I'm not advocating for the end of his career, nor do I really have a stance on what happened between them. If what she says is true, that's terrible. If they are false allegations, that is also terrible. But you're acting like that breakup text proves conclusively that he did nothing wrong because "that doesn't seem like something an abuser would write"? Also, that she tried to get back together with him -- if her claims are true, that kind of behavior is completely consistent with them. That is super common in abuse victims.

theplatypus wrote:I'm not advocating for the end of his career, nor do I really have a stance on what happened between them. If what she says is true, that's terrible. If they are false allegations, that is also terrible. But you're acting like that breakup text proves conclusively that he did nothing wrong because "that doesn't seem like something an abuser would write"? Also, that she tried to get back together with him -- if her claims are true, that kind of behavior is completely consistent with them. That is super common in abuse victims.

Couple questions to think about:
Is it also common for controlling, abusive types to end a relationship themselves?
Is it common for an abusive, controlling person to completely stop communication with the person they are controlling and abusive toward after ending said relationship?
Is it common when an abusive, controlling relationship comes to an end for there to be zero mention at all about the controlling and abusive behavior by either person?

I just don't see it here. He breaks up with her and ceases communication. She's already moved on, so why not take him to task about his behavior right then and there? His message to her has zero anger behind it. There's no vitriol like one would expect from a controlling, abusive person. I'm sorry but I just don't believe her.

meatwad wrote:Is it also common for controlling, abusive types to end a relationship themselves?
Is it common for an abusive, controlling person to completely stop communication with the person they are controlling and abusive toward after ending said relationship?
Is it common when an abusive, controlling relationship comes to an end for there to be zero mention at all about the controlling and abusive behavior by either person?

We don't have enough information right now to discern to what extent these things happened. You are jumping to make your mind up based on a few carefully selected "leaked" texts, and I understand wanting to do that perhaps as a counterbalance to the people who immediately make their mind up based on her account. But none of those points are enough to disprove her story. As to that last point -- yes, that is common. My partner and I are involved in an advocacy and support organization for domestic abuse victims here in BA, and you have no idea how long it takes for some victims to even process what they went through and identify it as manipulation and abuse.

meatwad wrote:There's no vitriol like one would expect from a controlling, abusive person.

I understand this thinking, but abusers aren't always snarling beasts who are foaming at the mouth and yelling out expletives. This is a misconception.