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simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:i dont understand the zoom sentiment. what about it bothers you?

Those that have the ability to work from home for the duration have an entirely different set of incentives and tradeoffs regarding covid restrictions than those that didn't. Continued promotion of said restrictions seem correlated to certain neuroses that working from home in the pandemic appear to foster.

i dunno, i kinda enjoy not spending the extra $150-180 per month for parking and gas. the only real tradeoff is days i work from home i start at 7am. days i work in the office i start 630ish

Okay?

The shorthand "zoom class" is to point out that the people driving pandemic response have effectively no skin in the game.

Not saying there's anything inherently wrong with work from home, but this demographic basically drives all Democratic Party policies and they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

you mean

so why point out that zoomers are running the policies of dems while not demonizing anti-maskers/covids or whatever you want to call them arent pushing the republicans policies (desantis comes to mind)

personally erring on the side of caution seems to be the way to go. if people who wear masks are wrong great, all you got to make fun of them for is wearing masks. anti-maskers are wrong you have death or very long term health issues

verb_to_trust wrote:You're in IT. Pretty easy for you to rationalize doing everything through a screen.

i know people in sales, logistics, accounting, marketing etc who all work from home too

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:i dont understand the zoom sentiment. what about it bothers you?

Those that have the ability to work from home for the duration have an entirely different set of incentives and tradeoffs regarding covid restrictions than those that didn't. Continued promotion of said restrictions seem correlated to certain neuroses that working from home in the pandemic appear to foster.

i dunno, i kinda enjoy not spending the extra $150-180 per month for parking and gas. the only real tradeoff is days i work from home i start at 7am. days i work in the office i start 630ish

SOUNDS LIKE YOU WORK FOR A GREAT COMPANY. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE MORE ABOUT IT?

simple schoolboy wrote:they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

Kids are in school, restaurant attendance is >80% of pre-COVID levels and rising, and people are swarming to football games and concerts. Most of the country is stepping out and living their lives.

McParadigm wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

Kids are in school, restaurant attendance is >80% of pre-COVID levels and rising, and people are swarming to football games and concerts. Most of the country is stepping out and living their lives.

Daily US COVID cases up more than 300% from Labor Day last year

(and Delta is moving north)

Bi_3 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

Kids are in school, restaurant attendance is >80% of pre-COVID levels and rising, and people are swarming to football games and concerts. Most of the country is stepping out and living their lives.

Daily US COVID cases up more than 300% from Labor Day last year

(and Delta is moving north)

i would think a lot of people who were on the fence with wearing a mask although hating it have just given up and figured it is inevitable so they stopped wearing their masks. added that to the anti-maskers and thats your surge

Peeps wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:You're in IT. Pretty easy for you to rationalize doing everything through a screen.

i know people in sales, logistics, accounting, marketing etc who all work from home too

So that's everybody then huh?

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:i dont understand the zoom sentiment. what about it bothers you?

Those that have the ability to work from home for the duration have an entirely different set of incentives and tradeoffs regarding covid restrictions than those that didn't. Continued promotion of said restrictions seem correlated to certain neuroses that working from home in the pandemic appear to foster.

i dunno, i kinda enjoy not spending the extra $150-180 per month for parking and gas. the only real tradeoff is days i work from home i start at 7am. days i work in the office i start 630ish

Okay?

The shorthand "zoom class" is to point out that the people driving pandemic response have effectively no skin in the game.

Not saying there's anything inherently wrong with work from home, but this demographic basically drives all Democratic Party policies and they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

you mean

so why point out that zoomers are running the policies of dems while not demonizing anti-maskers/covids or whatever you want to call them arent pushing the republicans policies (desantis comes to mind)

personally erring on the side of caution seems to be the way to go. if people who wear masks are wrong great, all you got to make fun of them for is wearing masks. anti-maskers are wrong you have death or very long term health issues

Or if an anti masker is wrong they end up with antibodies and the sniffles for a few days. Who are we to argue if someone wants to take that chance? I've seen a lot of more suspect stuff actually glorified on this board that is more dangerous. Drug use, for example. Let people do what they want.

verb_to_trust wrote:

Peeps wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:You're in IT. Pretty easy for you to rationalize doing everything through a screen.

i know people in sales, logistics, accounting, marketing etc who all work from home too

So that's everybody then huh?

no, there are real estate agents, executive assistants, executives and the list goes on. its not like it is some small minority. many groups of workers have shown they can do their work remotely and the company stays even financially or even in some cases ahead of what their projections are

McParadigm wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

Kids are in school, restaurant attendance is >80% of pre-COVID levels and rising, and people are swarming to football games and concerts. Most of the country is stepping out and living their lives.

Good, more of this. Something like a year later than it should have, but hey. On the other hand, talk of vaccine passports and employment conditional on getting the jab.

We'll see what Uncle Joe has planned for us tomorrow.

verb_to_trust wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:i dont understand the zoom sentiment. what about it bothers you?

Those that have the ability to work from home for the duration have an entirely different set of incentives and tradeoffs regarding covid restrictions than those that didn't. Continued promotion of said restrictions seem correlated to certain neuroses that working from home in the pandemic appear to foster.

i dunno, i kinda enjoy not spending the extra $150-180 per month for parking and gas. the only real tradeoff is days i work from home i start at 7am. days i work in the office i start 630ish

Okay?

The shorthand "zoom class" is to point out that the people driving pandemic response have effectively no skin in the game.

Not saying there's anything inherently wrong with work from home, but this demographic basically drives all Democratic Party policies and they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

you mean

so why point out that zoomers are running the policies of dems while not demonizing anti-maskers/covids or whatever you want to call them arent pushing the republicans policies (desantis comes to mind)

personally erring on the side of caution seems to be the way to go. if people who wear masks are wrong great, all you got to make fun of them for is wearing masks. anti-maskers are wrong you have death or very long term health issues

Or if an anti masker is wrong they end up with antibodies and the sniffles for a few days. Who are we to argue if someone wants to take that chance? I've seen a lot of more suspect stuff actually glorified on this board that is more dangerous. Drug use, for example. Let people do what they want.

if there was a way they could test you before you get covid and say with certainty this is what will happen to you if you get infected then sure. the problem is we dont really have any idea how someone will react to being infected so it is my belief and quite a few others it is better to be safe than sorry

all things being equal and you had a 50-50 chance of being infected and your symptoms would be im either going to be mildly sick or i can die, which would you rather be? that's what people who wear masks are trying to do, increase their odds of not getting covid but if they do get it (and being vaccinated) they have lowered their chance of being hospitalized. and as far as pre-existing conditions i would bet for everyone 2 people that know they have a pre-exisiting condition that can increase their odds of hospitalization there are 4 or 5 more who have no clue they have a pre-exisiting condition

Peeps wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Peeps wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:You're in IT. Pretty easy for you to rationalize doing everything through a screen.

i know people in sales, logistics, accounting, marketing etc who all work from home too

So that's everybody then huh?

no, there are real estate agents, executive assistants, executives and the list goes on. its not like it is some small minority. many groups of workers have shown they can do their work remotely and the company stays even financially or even in some cases ahead of what their projections are

People enjoy working from home because of no commute or whatever, but they also get to slack off more. That's cool too.

simple schoolboy wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

Kids are in school, restaurant attendance is >80% of pre-COVID levels and rising, and people are swarming to football games and concerts. Most of the country is stepping out and living their lives.

Good, more of this. Something like a year later than it should have, but hey. On the other hand, talk of vaccine passports and employment conditional on getting the jab.

We'll see what Uncle Joe has planned for us tomorrow.

i dont get why people are so hung up on having to prove you are vaccinated to work when every single one of us had to prove we were vaccinated to go to school

verb_to_trust wrote:

Peeps wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Peeps wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:You're in IT. Pretty easy for you to rationalize doing everything through a screen.

i know people in sales, logistics, accounting, marketing etc who all work from home too

So that's everybody then huh?

no, there are real estate agents, executive assistants, executives and the list goes on. its not like it is some small minority. many groups of workers have shown they can do their work remotely and the company stays even financially or even in some cases ahead of what their projections are

People enjoy working from home because of no commute or whatever, but they also get to slack off more. That's cool too.

i am sure thats the case for some but there are studies that some people tend to work longer hours too to compensate for the time they mow the yard, wash the car, go shopping or whatever they do during the day when supposed to be working

Peeps wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Peeps wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Peeps wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:You're in IT. Pretty easy for you to rationalize doing everything through a screen.

i know people in sales, logistics, accounting, marketing etc who all work from home too

So that's everybody then huh?

no, there are real estate agents, executive assistants, executives and the list goes on. its not like it is some small minority. many groups of workers have shown they can do their work remotely and the company stays even financially or even in some cases ahead of what their projections are

People enjoy working from home because of no commute or whatever, but they also get to slack off more. That's cool too.

i am sure thats the case for some but there are studies that some people tend to work longer hours too to compensate for the time they mow the yard, wash the car, go shopping or whatever they do during the day when supposed to be working

Most people are shitty employees though, let's be real.

verb_to_trust wrote:Most people are shittyemployeesthough, let's be real.

i think on this we can agree

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

Kids are in school, restaurant attendance is >80% of pre-COVID levels and rising, and people are swarming to football games and concerts. Most of the country is stepping out and living their lives.

Good, more of this. Something like a year later than it should have, but hey. On the other hand, talk of vaccine passports and employment conditional on getting the jab.

We'll see what Uncle Joe has planned for us tomorrow.

i dont get why people are so hung up on having to prove you are vaccinated to work when every single one of us had to prove we were vaccinated to go to school

It doesn't accomplish anything. People catch covid from vaccinated people every day, and vice versa.

verb_to_trust wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:i dont understand the zoom sentiment. what about it bothers you?

Those that have the ability to work from home for the duration have an entirely different set of incentives and tradeoffs regarding covid restrictions than those that didn't. Continued promotion of said restrictions seem correlated to certain neuroses that working from home in the pandemic appear to foster.

i dunno, i kinda enjoy not spending the extra $150-180 per month for parking and gas. the only real tradeoff is days i work from home i start at 7am. days i work in the office i start 630ish

Okay?

The shorthand "zoom class" is to point out that the people driving pandemic response have effectively no skin in the game.

Not saying there's anything inherently wrong with work from home, but this demographic basically drives all Democratic Party policies and they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

you mean

so why point out that zoomers are running the policies of dems while not demonizing anti-maskers/covids or whatever you want to call them arent pushing the republicans policies (desantis comes to mind)

personally erring on the side of caution seems to be the way to go. if people who wear masks are wrong great, all you got to make fun of them for is wearing masks. anti-maskers are wrong you have death or very long term health issues

Or if an anti masker is wrong they end up with antibodies and the sniffles for a few days. Who are we to argue if someone wants to take that chance? I've seen a lot of more suspect stuff actually glorified on this board that is more dangerous. Drug use, for example. Let people do what they want.

because that decision doesn't just affect the individual

who knows how many people you've passed the virus to the past few days

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Peeps wrote:i dont understand the zoom sentiment. what about it bothers you?

Those that have the ability to work from home for the duration have an entirely different set of incentives and tradeoffs regarding covid restrictions than those that didn't. Continued promotion of said restrictions seem correlated to certain neuroses that working from home in the pandemic appear to foster.

i dunno, i kinda enjoy not spending the extra $150-180 per month for parking and gas. the only real tradeoff is days i work from home i start at 7am. days i work in the office i start 630ish

Okay?

The shorthand "zoom class" is to point out that the people driving pandemic response have effectively no skin in the game.

Not saying there's anything inherently wrong with work from home, but this demographic basically drives all Democratic Party policies and they seem quite content with Covid restrictions forever.

you mean

so why point out that zoomers are running the policies of dems while not demonizing anti-maskers/covids or whatever you want to call them arent pushing the republicans policies (desantis comes to mind)

personally erring on the side of caution seems to be the way to go. if people who wear masks are wrong great, all you got to make fun of them for is wearing masks. anti-maskers are wrong you have death or very long term health issues

Or if an anti masker is wrong they end up with antibodies and the sniffles for a few days. Who are we to argue if someone wants to take that chance? I've seen a lot of more suspect stuff actually glorified on this board that is more dangerous. Drug use, for example. Let people do what they want.

because that decision doesn't just affect the individual

who knows how many people you've passed the virus to the past few days

Masks don't work and vaccine doesn't limit spread.