numbers wrote:I hate when guys retire and their finishers become commonly used moves. Now no one can use the DDT or the superkick, both awesome moves, because everyone is using them as regular moves now.
Most of the guys using the superkick suck at it...speaking of superkicks, can the WWE finally get off their ass and just sign the damn Young Bucks already?
From what I've read, the Young Bucks pissed a lot of people in WWE off a few years back when they had a try out.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sat April 25, 2015 2:52 am
by BigRedLedbetter
numbers wrote:
MattA75 wrote:
numbers wrote:I hate when guys retire and their finishers become commonly used moves. Now no one can use the DDT or the superkick, both awesome moves, because everyone is using them as regular moves now.
Most of the guys using the superkick suck at it...speaking of superkicks, can the WWE finally get off their ass and just sign the damn Young Bucks already?
From what I've read, the Young Bucks pissed a lot of people in WWE off a few years back when they had a try out.
Briscoe brothers need to be in the WWE before the Young Bucks please. The Bucks are awesome in the ring but the Briscoes (especially Jay) can be big time if they bring them in and give them a little freedom. With PG though that will be tough.
I think Nick from the Young Bucks will have a shot someday. He is only 25. As is Adam Cole.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sat April 25, 2015 11:54 am
by numbers
I think the Briscoes just re-upped with ROH as they offered more money than WWE. When I read that story I was happy, as we need to get back to a time when talented wrestlers can negotiate between promotions.
I also think the Briscoes would be turned into a jokey Godwinn style team if they went to WWE.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sat April 25, 2015 5:41 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
numbers wrote:
I also think the Briscoes would be turned into a jokey Godwinn style team if they went to WWE.
Good point there. Ugh.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sat April 25, 2015 8:13 pm
by numbers
I'm pretty much convinced that they will fuck things up with Finn Balor, even though he could be HUGE.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sat April 25, 2015 10:42 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
numbers wrote:I'm pretty much convinced that they will fuck things up with Finn Balor, even though he could be HUGE.
He really could be. He kind of has it all. Dudes love him and girls find him dreamy. He would be kind of hard to market to some. Outside of Bret Hart I'm struggling to think of someone who has been a top flight main eventer who isn't American born. I think that could hold him and Neville both back sadly. Here is a great match between those two pre WWE.
I think Steen and Zayn can be big time as well but I don't see the E doing what they need to with them. I'm probably higher on Zayn than most but I think he could be the face of the company. Even for only a few years. Steen will always be a thorn in his side. he can be a top heel and turn into an anti hero eventually. I'm just a massive mark for that feud .
This video is just perfect.....
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sun April 26, 2015 1:23 am
by numbers
I think Owens can be a main eventer, but I think Balor could be a STAR if they use him correctly. He's so out of the box and ahead of the curve with just about everything he does. They'll ruin him though, I have no faith in their ability to properly use someone as unique as he is.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sun April 26, 2015 1:24 am
by numbers
I think Zayn is an amazing worker, but I don't see his schtick getting over on the main roster.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sun April 26, 2015 1:39 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
numbers wrote:I think Owens can be a main eventer, but I think Balor could be a STAR if they use him correctly. He's so out of the box and ahead of the curve with just about everything he does. They'll ruin him though, I have no faith in their ability to properly use someone as unique as he is.
They don't have the best history when it comes to guys like Owens and Balor as far as letting them do their own thing. A lot of that is the PG rating I think.
numbers wrote:I think Zayn is an amazing worker, but I don't see his schtick getting over on the main roster.
He def needs more of an edge to his character.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sun April 26, 2015 3:59 pm
by numbers
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
numbers wrote:I think Owens can be a main eventer, but I think Balor could be a STAR if they use him correctly. He's so out of the box and ahead of the curve with just about everything he does. They'll ruin him though, I have no faith in their ability to properly use someone as unique as he is.
They don't have the best history when it comes to guys like Owens and Balor as far as letting them do their own thing. A lot of that is the PG rating I think.
numbers wrote:I think Zayn is an amazing worker, but I don't see his schtick getting over on the main roster.
He def needs more of an edge to his character.
The PG rating thing is the biggest crutch, that is not why their product sucks. NXT is PG and it's amazing, it's their lack of creativity that stifles guys.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sun April 26, 2015 6:14 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
numbers wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
numbers wrote:I think Owens can be a main eventer, but I think Balor could be a STAR if they use him correctly. He's so out of the box and ahead of the curve with just about everything he does. They'll ruin him though, I have no faith in their ability to properly use someone as unique as he is.
They don't have the best history when it comes to guys like Owens and Balor as far as letting them do their own thing. A lot of that is the PG rating I think.
numbers wrote:I think Zayn is an amazing worker, but I don't see his schtick getting over on the main roster.
He def needs more of an edge to his character.
The PG rating thing is the biggest crutch, that is not why their product sucks. NXT is PG and it's amazing, it's their lack of creativity that stifles guys.
I disagree somewhat. Yes NXT is great but I think PG has hindered what some guys could/can do. It also has made the commentary pretty terrible.
I do agree creative is pretty bad. It has been for a long time. They are wasting a lot of talent.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sun April 26, 2015 7:07 pm
by MattA75
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
numbers wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
numbers wrote:I think Owens can be a main eventer, but I think Balor could be a STAR if they use him correctly. He's so out of the box and ahead of the curve with just about everything he does. They'll ruin him though, I have no faith in their ability to properly use someone as unique as he is.
They don't have the best history when it comes to guys like Owens and Balor as far as letting them do their own thing. A lot of that is the PG rating I think.
numbers wrote:I think Zayn is an amazing worker, but I don't see his schtick getting over on the main roster.
He def needs more of an edge to his character.
The PG rating thing is the biggest crutch, that is not why their product sucks. NXT is PG and it's amazing, it's their lack of creativity that stifles guys.
I disagree somewhat. Yes NXT is great but I think PG has hindered what some guys could/can do. It also has made the commentary pretty terrible.
I do agree creative is pretty bad. It has been for a long time. They are wasting a lot of talent.
if it's true that NXT is HHH's baby, I honestly wonder if it wouldn't be a bad thing for Vince to have a massive heart attack and be forced away for a while
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sun April 26, 2015 10:48 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
I just watched the Bryan/Kane match from Extreme Rules last year. Despite Bryan's limitations due to this injury the match was actually really good. Bryan is out tonight. He really needs to adjust his style to prolong his career.
MattA75 wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
numbers wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:
numbers wrote:I think Owens can be a main eventer, but I think Balor could be a STAR if they use him correctly. He's so out of the box and ahead of the curve with just about everything he does. They'll ruin him though, I have no faith in their ability to properly use someone as unique as he is.
They don't have the best history when it comes to guys like Owens and Balor as far as letting them do their own thing. A lot of that is the PG rating I think.
numbers wrote:I think Zayn is an amazing worker, but I don't see his schtick getting over on the main roster.
He def needs more of an edge to his character.
The PG rating thing is the biggest crutch, that is not why their product sucks. NXT is PG and it's amazing, it's their lack of creativity that stifles guys.
I disagree somewhat. Yes NXT is great but I think PG has hindered what some guys could/can do. It also has made the commentary pretty terrible.
I do agree creative is pretty bad. It has been for a long time. They are wasting a lot of talent.
if it's true that NXT is HHH's baby, I honestly wonder if it wouldn't be a bad thing for Vince to have a massive heart attack and be forced away for a while
Vince has been out of touch for a decade now. Only reservation I have with HHH being in charge is politic. Despite his massive ego, Vince is able to put that ego aside when it comes to what is best for the company. Like bringing Warrior back, bringing Brock back, etc. Hopefully HHH does the same thing if someone like Punk wants to come back and he pushes the right guys.
William Regal also has a key role in NXT. Who helped train HHH.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sun April 26, 2015 11:24 pm
by numbers
Personally, I don't think HHH would all of a sudden book the main roster like NXT is booked. I don't think it would be that much different if he took over.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Sun April 26, 2015 11:32 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
On paper this PPV might be ok. I hope Ambrose/Harper get enough time.
Wish my buddy luck who sent his video in for Tough Enough!!
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Mon April 27, 2015 10:54 am
by numbers
That PPV was pretty bad, Reigns/Big Show was legit the best match of the night, and that's not a good thing.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Mon April 27, 2015 1:01 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
I thought the tag title match was really good. Main event was ok. Reigns/Show was way better than I thought it would be. Reigns is improving. Those promos though?
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Mon April 27, 2015 4:34 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
i feel like when ever WWE does a cage match it just turns to crap, all the people that it is supposed to keep out all get in anyway and it always turns into a cluster. i really hope they start booking Rollins to look strong soon, the chicken shit heel is good to a degree, but the best off all time in that roll (Ric Flair) still looked like he should be the Champ at the end of the match, Rollins is looking weak as hell.
im kinda expecting to find out tonight that Rollins and Orton will have a rematch at payback because Rollins used the RKO
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Mon April 27, 2015 5:04 pm
by numbers
After last nights show, and how bad the product has been in general the last few months, I don't see myself watching much longer. I'll still watch NXT but I'm not going to put myself through the chore of Raw so that it can build to a shit PPV like that.
Re: Official WWE/Pro Wrestling thread
Posted: Mon April 27, 2015 5:09 pm
by Simple Torture
numbers wrote:After last nights show, and how bad the product has been in general the last few months, I don't see myself watching much longer. I'll still watch NXT but I'm not going to put myself through the chore of Raw so that it can build to a shit PPV like that.
I realized my one-month subscription to the network was still active last night, but when I heard Bryan was down, I didn't even have interest in watching the replay. Street fights are all the same. Cage matches are all the same, like Doc said. Big Show is a joke and Kane is an old man. I'm still up for the Royal Rumble every year, and probably Wrestlemania, and maaaaybe Summerslam and MITB, but I really don't think I'll have a network subscription outside of those months.