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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 6:44 pm
by The Argonaut
Has there ever been a Senate confirmation hearing as disastrous as DeVos's?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 6:47 pm
by 4/5
The Argonaut wrote: I read the biography of Bush 43 by Jean Edward Smith that came out last year.
Would you recommend this? Just the other day I decided I need to read a bio of W and maybe his (ghostwriter's) version of events.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 6:52 pm
by The Argonaut
4/5 wrote:
The Argonaut wrote: I read the biography of Bush 43 by Jean Edward Smith that came out last year.
Would you recommend this? Just the other day I decided I need to read a bio of W and maybe his (ghostwriter's) version of events.
I liked it a lot. It's written really well and has a compelling story. It's very critical of his administration, but I think ultimately fair. This negative review of the sources Smith uses does ring true to some degree, so should probably be paired with the book.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 6:56 pm
by McParadigm
Wow. That's a -12 big picture.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 7:02 pm
by 4/5
The Argonaut wrote:
4/5 wrote:
The Argonaut wrote: I read the biography of Bush 43 by Jean Edward Smith that came out last year.
Would you recommend this? Just the other day I decided I need to read a bio of W and maybe his (ghostwriter's) version of events.
I liked it a lot. It's written really well and has a compelling story. It's very critical of his administration, but I think ultimately fair. This negative review of the sources Smith uses does ring true to some degree, so should probably be paired with the book.
Man, that's a scathing review.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 7:41 pm
by BurtReynolds
Darn, and our education system was working so well.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 7:43 pm
by Norah
you're right burt, the schools suck so we should burn them to the ground and never teach anyone anything again

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 7:49 pm
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:you're right burt, the schools suck so we should burn them to the ground and never teach anyone anything again
Burn them to the ground: yes

Never teach again: no

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 7:50 pm
by BurtReynolds
This is a time of renewal, my friends. Beautiful, chaotic, destructive renewal!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 8:03 pm
by Chris_H_2
cutuphalfdead wrote:you're right burt, the schools suck so we should burn them to the ground and never teach anyone anything again
holy crap. i missed that in the confirmation hearings. is that really what's going to happen? i knew i should've called my teacher-babysitter's union rep.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 8:21 pm
by BurtReynolds
The tech industry finally deciding to get into politics might be great or terrible. Probably terrible. Thanks, Trump.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 8:28 pm
by Kaius
cutuphalfdead wrote:you're right burt, the schools suck so we should burn them to the ground and never teach anyone anything again
a tad dramatic

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 8:41 pm
by Strat
Thank you for contacting me regarding the confirmation of Betsy DeVos for Secretary of Education. I appreciate you taking the time to write. It is an honor to serve you in the United States Senate and I hope you will continue to write with your thoughts and ideas on moving our country forward.

On February 7, 2017, with my support, the Senate voted to confirm Betsy DeVos for Secretary of Education by a vote of 50-50. Vice President Mike Pence cast the tie-breaking vote in favor of Ms. DeVos. Ms. DeVos is a long-time advocate for education reform, and has served in leadership positions for many education-focused not-for-profit organizations. Article II of the Constitution requires that the President obtain the advice and consent of the Senate on Presidential appointees.

As a product of public schools myself, and a father with one child - soon to be three - in the public school system, I believe it is important to have someone leading the Department of Education who will fight for public schools. When I had the opportunity to meet Betsy DeVos personally, she pledged to me that she would be an advocate for public schools, teachers, and educational opportunity for all. The debate around her nomination has been a healthy exercise of our democracy, made all the more important because it involves our most precious possession, our children. As someone who believes education decisions should be left to parents and their children with policy driven locally, Congress will hold her accountable and I will work to ensure she lives up to the commitment she made to me.

The teachers in our lives play an outsized role as we grow into adults and throughout our adult life - and for good reason. They taught me that we must work together in common cause for a greater school, community, and nation. I look forward to the great work ahead of us not as parents divided, but as people committed, in spite of these differences, to building a stronger education for our children and grandchildren.

Again, thank you for contacting me, and do not hesitate to do so again when an issue is important to you.

Sincerely,

Cory Gardner
United States Senator

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 8:53 pm
by Simple Torture
How I imagine strat's response: "Oh, okay, cool. Thanks for your time!"

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 8:59 pm
by Strat
Simple Torture wrote:How I imagine strat's response: "Oh, okay, cool. Thanks for your time!"
I actually want to send him a dick pick with a swastika on it and tell him to eat shit and die

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 9:03 pm
by Norah
Strat wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:How I imagine strat's response: "Oh, okay, cool. Thanks for your time!"
I actually want to send him a dick pick with a swastika on it and tell him to eat shit and die
do it

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 9:03 pm
by Strat
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Strat wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:How I imagine strat's response: "Oh, okay, cool. Thanks for your time!"
I actually want to send him a dick pick with a swastika on it and tell him to eat shit and die
do it
You're not getting a copy of it, chud.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 9:07 pm
by Norah
Strat wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Strat wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:How I imagine strat's response: "Oh, okay, cool. Thanks for your time!"
I actually want to send him a dick pick with a swastika on it and tell him to eat shit and die
do it
You're not getting a copy of it, chud.
do it anyway

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 9:41 pm
by bune
BurtReynolds wrote:The tech industry finally deciding to get into politics might be great or terrible. Probably terrible. Thanks, Trump.
Well, if companies are 'people' I don't see the problem.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue February 07, 2017 9:56 pm
by Strat
God I hate people

Girl on Facebook: i am not up in arms because she hasn't done anything yet. i am also not appropriately informed to cast an opinion. i suppose i wish we could let leaders have their chance before we condem them.