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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:11 pm
by harmless
These songs have some great melodies to sing along to. I haven't felt that for a very long time.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:12 pm
by HardTI
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Heathen wrote:
WtOB? wrote:nah lets talk about which members of the forum we like better
I'd rather rank the fanboys
Strat and harmless







Everyone else. I love me some strat and harmless....
They are dreamy arent they?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:12 pm
by Thejambi
We all should really hold out judgment till we hear how Betterman Live ties these all together.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:15 pm
by stupidmop
harmless wrote:The slightly off-putting effect of the shiny production begins to wear off after a while.
It's not even the production really. It's the way they've chosen to interpret 'fun' or 'happy' or 'poppy' . Mym just came on and I was thinking wow this is kicking my ass maybe I was too harsh on it before, and then that fucking metaphysically redeemed part kicked in and reminded me why. Just bleh.

I'm not trying to shit on your parade btw, I'm actually really pleased you like it, cause I know you really wanted to like it. :)

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:17 pm
by wilkins
The songs just lack any emotional attachment, depth, meaning, they just seem to be what 5 happy guys bring in from separate lives apart, laissez-faire approach. I really like KDs post.

Earlier today when I was walking back from the farmers market, I found myself humming and singing "escape is never the safest path (place)", with the focus on the SA-fest part. Things like that that mean so much and are 20 years old. I'll never find something like that in Let the Records play or its compadres, it just doesn't touch that emotional nerve, connect, impact...just flies on by like a 2013 Dodge Dart, not the original Dart.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:18 pm
by WtOB?
we should all probably hold off judgment until we find out which post jorge prefers.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:20 pm
by tommymtcom
Clearly this is not what I want from Pearl Jam and I can't say that I will be listening to it very much, but it definitely feels like a better album than Backspacer. They seem to have put a lot more thought into it.

I wonder if this album is going to retroactively sour some people on Backspacer, though.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:21 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:The slightly off-putting effect of the shiny production begins to wear off after a while.
It's not even the production really. It's the way they've chosen to interpret 'fun' or 'happy' or 'poppy' . Mym just came on and I was thinking wow this is kicking my ass maybe I was too harsh on it before, and then that fucking metaphysically redeemed part kicked in and reminded me why. Just bleh.

I'm not trying to shit on your parade btw, I'm actually really pleased you like it, cause I know you really wanted to like it. :)
:thumbsup:

I think it all boils down to one fundamental thing: how OK are you with the fact that PJ are playing pop rock music? All of our opinions (mine including) will be based entirely on that context.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:23 pm
by Juvenal
tommymctom wrote: I wonder if this album is going to retroactively sour some people on Backspacer, though.
I've been thinking the same...

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:24 pm
by HardTI
stip wrote:I apologize. I have a baby freaking out and it puts me in a really shitty mood
Ahhh welcome to fatherhood =)
You'll love when it works the other way and they put you in the most fantastic mood you could ever imagine.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:25 pm
by harmless
Juvenal wrote:
tommymctom wrote: I wonder if this album is going to retroactively sour some people on Backspacer, though.
I've been thinking the same...
Not on this forum, Backspacer couldn't be any more sour already :lol:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:26 pm
by McParadigm
Hey hey I'm okay with pop rock.

I just think the songwriting has suffered during the last 11 years, for a variety of reasons, and the band's "were older now and feeling groovy" safety thing doesn't blend with a leap to pop rock particularly well.

Well-done pop rock is tits, is what.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:27 pm
by digster
harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:The slightly off-putting effect of the shiny production begins to wear off after a while.
It's not even the production really. It's the way they've chosen to interpret 'fun' or 'happy' or 'poppy' . Mym just came on and I was thinking wow this is kicking my ass maybe I was too harsh on it before, and then that fucking metaphysically redeemed part kicked in and reminded me why. Just bleh.

I'm not trying to shit on your parade btw, I'm actually really pleased you like it, cause I know you really wanted to like it. :)
:thumbsup:

I think it all boils down to one fundamental thing: how OK are you with the fact that PJ are playing pop rock music? All of our opinions (mine including) will be based entirely on that context.
I don't think it's that; I think it's whether you think their interpretation of it is any good.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:27 pm
by Juvenal
harmless wrote:
Juvenal wrote:
tommymctom wrote: I wonder if this album is going to retroactively sour some people on Backspacer, though.
I've been thinking the same...
Not on this forum, Backspacer couldn't be any more sour already :lol:
Indeed :) Although our shared appreciation for Speed of Sound makes me happy.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:28 pm
by Thejambi
RIP PJ :peace: ?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:29 pm
by HardTI
digster wrote:
harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:The slightly off-putting effect of the shiny production begins to wear off after a while.
It's not even the production really. It's the way they've chosen to interpret 'fun' or 'happy' or 'poppy' . Mym just came on and I was thinking wow this is kicking my ass maybe I was too harsh on it before, and then that fucking metaphysically redeemed part kicked in and reminded me why. Just bleh.

I'm not trying to shit on your parade btw, I'm actually really pleased you like it, cause I know you really wanted to like it. :)
:thumbsup:

I think it all boils down to one fundamental thing: how OK are you with the fact that PJ are playing pop rock music? All of our opinions (mine including) will be based entirely on that context.
I don't think it's that; I think it's whether you think their interpretation of it is any good.
Ya I think PJ have always played pop music.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:30 pm
by Heathen
HardTI wrote:
digster wrote:
harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:The slightly off-putting effect of the shiny production begins to wear off after a while.
It's not even the production really. It's the way they've chosen to interpret 'fun' or 'happy' or 'poppy' . Mym just came on and I was thinking wow this is kicking my ass maybe I was too harsh on it before, and then that fucking metaphysically redeemed part kicked in and reminded me why. Just bleh.

I'm not trying to shit on your parade btw, I'm actually really pleased you like it, cause I know you really wanted to like it. :)
:thumbsup:

I think it all boils down to one fundamental thing: how OK are you with the fact that PJ are playing pop rock music? All of our opinions (mine including) will be based entirely on that context.
I don't think it's that; I think it's whether you think their interpretation of it is any good.
Ya I think PJ have always played pop music.
And Yield is their ultimate pop rock record.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:30 pm
by WtOB?
stip, can we get an opinion index stickied please? so we can see what each member thinks of the tracks so the cool kids don't have to listen to them, they can just look at what their favourite posters think and form an opinion around that? cheers mate.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:31 pm
by HardTI
Heathen wrote:
HardTI wrote:
digster wrote:
harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:The slightly off-putting effect of the shiny production begins to wear off after a while.
It's not even the production really. It's the way they've chosen to interpret 'fun' or 'happy' or 'poppy' . Mym just came on and I was thinking wow this is kicking my ass maybe I was too harsh on it before, and then that fucking metaphysically redeemed part kicked in and reminded me why. Just bleh.

I'm not trying to shit on your parade btw, I'm actually really pleased you like it, cause I know you really wanted to like it. :)
:thumbsup:

I think it all boils down to one fundamental thing: how OK are you with the fact that PJ are playing pop rock music? All of our opinions (mine including) will be based entirely on that context.
I don't think it's that; I think it's whether you think their interpretation of it is any good.
Ya I think PJ have always played pop music.
And Yield is their ultimate pop rock record.
It really is. And a fantastic one at that.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 4:39 pm
by harmless
digster wrote:
harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
harmless wrote:The slightly off-putting effect of the shiny production begins to wear off after a while.
It's not even the production really. It's the way they've chosen to interpret 'fun' or 'happy' or 'poppy' . Mym just came on and I was thinking wow this is kicking my ass maybe I was too harsh on it before, and then that fucking metaphysically redeemed part kicked in and reminded me why. Just bleh.

I'm not trying to shit on your parade btw, I'm actually really pleased you like it, cause I know you really wanted to like it. :)
:thumbsup:

I think it all boils down to one fundamental thing: how OK are you with the fact that PJ are playing pop rock music? All of our opinions (mine including) will be based entirely on that context.
I don't think it's that; I think it's whether you think their interpretation of it is any good.
Yes, maybe. By and large I thought Backspacer's wasn't. So far I think Lightning Bolt's is.