Red Mosquito

Or is ignoring hostile in your opinion?

dad wrote:

spike wrote:

light bulb wrote:After reading this thread, I'm not sure anyone in here has actually read a George Orwell novel.

The one about seatbelts?

Could be the one about ham planets.

Perhaps this leads me to my original comment about actually reading?

IANAL, but, since I kept editing my previous post, I figure I'd summarize it here:

The USPS is exempt from the Vaccine Mandate because:

1) Generally applicable laws to Federal employees and the public don't apply to the USPS

2) OSHA specifically exempts the USPS

It sounds like Congress could mandate a vaccine for the postal service, but we don't do anything other than executive actions and administrative rule changes these days.

Get yourself a partner like the Postal Service had lobbyists in 1970.

simple schoolboy wrote:2) OSHA specifically exempts the USPS

I've always wondered how the American federal government justifies this.

In European countries, the carrier services are amoung the most protected people.

spike wrote:

Did this thread just pass the Brimley/ Cocoon line?

light bulb wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:2) OSHA specifically exempts the USPS

I've always wondered how the American federal government justifies this.

In European countries, the carrier services are amoung the most protected people.

Seeing as how in 1970 the Postal Union had just won recognition from the feds, being exempt from OSHA was probably a handout to the union, not the management. Maybe they only wanted rule changes through new contracts or were worried about OSHA setting minimums they wanted to exceed, who knows.

I dunno about the USPS contractors, but the Postal Union is pretty strong, they probably do a decent job of maintaining safety standards in their contracts for unionized employees.

simple schoolboy wrote:

light bulb wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:2) OSHA specifically exempts the USPS

I've always wondered how the American federal government justifies this.

In European countries, the carrier services are amoung the most protected people.

Seeing as how in 1970 the Postal Union had just won recognition from the feds, being exempt from OSHA was probably a handout to the union, not the management. Maybe they only wanted rule changes through new contracts or were worried about OSHA setting minimums they wanted to exceed, who knows.

I dunno about the USPS contractors, but the Postal Union is pretty strong, they probably do a decent job of maintaining safety standards in their contracts for unionized employees.

Rank the top 5 most dangerous things about delivering mail

Bammer wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

light bulb wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:2) OSHA specifically exempts the USPS

I've always wondered how the American federal government justifies this.

In European countries, the carrier services are amoung the most protected people.

Seeing as how in 1970 the Postal Union had just won recognition from the feds, being exempt from OSHA was probably a handout to the union, not the management. Maybe they only wanted rule changes through new contracts or were worried about OSHA setting minimums they wanted to exceed, who knows.

I dunno about the USPS contractors, but the Postal Union is pretty strong, they probably do a decent job of maintaining safety standards in their contracts for unionized employees.

Rank the top 5 most dangerous things about delivering mail

Mostly things outside of Post Office property:

Dogs, trip hazards, etc.

simple schoolboy wrote:

Bammer wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

light bulb wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:2) OSHA specifically exempts the USPS

I've always wondered how the American federal government justifies this.

In European countries, the carrier services are amoung the most protected people.

Seeing as how in 1970 the Postal Union had just won recognition from the feds, being exempt from OSHA was probably a handout to the union, not the management. Maybe they only wanted rule changes through new contracts or were worried about OSHA setting minimums they wanted to exceed, who knows.

I dunno about the USPS contractors, but the Postal Union is pretty strong, they probably do a decent job of maintaining safety standards in their contracts for unionized employees.

Rank the top 5 most dangerous things about delivering mail

Mostly things outside of Post Office property:

Dogs, trip hazards, etc.

Ok 3 more to go

simple schoolboy wrote:

light bulb wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:2) OSHA specifically exempts the USPS

I've always wondered how the American federal government justifies this.

In European countries, the carrier services are amoung the most protected people.

Seeing as how in 1970 the Postal Union had just won recognition from the feds, being exempt from OSHA was probably a handout to the union, not the management. Maybe they only wanted rule changes through new contracts or were worried about OSHA setting minimums they wanted to exceed, who knows.

I dunno about the USPS contractors, but the Postal Union is pretty strong, they probably do a decent job of maintaining safety standards in their contracts for unionized employees.

I don't know the details.

I find it hard to believe that carrier service workers can work and have unions today. Other places have transitioned them to the private sector or other work in the government.

To justify their jobs in the face of internet commerce and private shipping seems bizarre.

Bammer wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Bammer wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

light bulb wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:2) OSHA specifically exempts the USPS

I've always wondered how the American federal government justifies this.

In European countries, the carrier services are amoung the most protected people.

Seeing as how in 1970 the Postal Union had just won recognition from the feds, being exempt from OSHA was probably a handout to the union, not the management. Maybe they only wanted rule changes through new contracts or were worried about OSHA setting minimums they wanted to exceed, who knows.

I dunno about the USPS contractors, but the Postal Union is pretty strong, they probably do a decent job of maintaining safety standards in their contracts for unionized employees.

Rank the top 5 most dangerous things about delivering mail

Mostly things outside of Post Office property:

Dogs, trip hazards, etc.

Ok 3 more to go

Okay, Newman.

Mail carriers exercise outside all day in the sun. Just saying.

verb_to_trust wrote:Mail carriers exercise outside all day in the sun. Just saying.

Not celebrating the mandate, just trying to figure out why the USPS is a weird almost untouchable entity like the Federal Reserve.

simple schoolboy wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Mail carriers exercise outside all day in the sun. Just saying.

Not celebrating the mandate, just trying to figure out why the USPS is a weird almost untouchable entity like the Federal Reserve.

USPS Union is no joke. Plus, the mail in ballots.

Bammer wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

Bammer wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

light bulb wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:2) OSHA specifically exempts the USPS

I've always wondered how the American federal government justifies this.

In European countries, the carrier services are amoung the most protected people.

Seeing as how in 1970 the Postal Union had just won recognition from the feds, being exempt from OSHA was probably a handout to the union, not the management. Maybe they only wanted rule changes through new contracts or were worried about OSHA setting minimums they wanted to exceed, who knows.

I dunno about the USPS contractors, but the Postal Union is pretty strong, they probably do a decent job of maintaining safety standards in their contracts for unionized employees.

Rank the top 5 most dangerous things about delivering mail

Mostly things outside of Post Office property:

Dogs, trip hazards, etc.

Ok 3 more to go

Paper cuts?

Rain, sleet, snow

If Bammer is a postal carrier who didn't bother to explain to the rest of us why they are exempt, I will be disappointed.