Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 20, 2018 2:58 pm
Really funny in retrospect how Israel gave so much of its soul in exchange for Donald Trump’s support.
Garfield without Garfield is usually way better in concept than practice, but this is fucking greatbune wrote:washing machine wrote:
McParadigm wrote:This reads more as “Let our enemies coalesce, slaughter our allies, and own the region.”bada wrote:I don't know. There is something to be said for letting our enemies waste their blood and treasure on fighting our other enemies. Let the radicals turn their gaze on Moscow for a while.
You just summed up my frustration and disappointment with the conservative mindset in 2018. Simple answers that on the surface make a lot of sense (ie. less taxes = MORE money in my pocket!), but when you look deeper fail to answer the problems we are facing (ie. rising health care costs = a lot LESS money in my pocket).bada wrote:McParadigm wrote:This reads more as “Let our enemies coalesce, slaughter our allies, and own the region.”bada wrote:I don't know. There is something to be said for letting our enemies waste their blood and treasure on fighting our other enemies. Let the radicals turn their gaze on Moscow for a while.
I understand the sentiment....I know its not realistic or a very good idea....we would be worse off in the long term.
Lindsay Graham was highly critical of this. Mattis and the national security team were also critical.bada wrote:It is interesting that the left thought it was a great idea to get out when Barry wanted to do it and the right were opposed and that has flipped. Why could that be I wonder?
If we can’t send soldiers where it is needed, who can we send? Yes, soldiers have loved ones and parents, and they are doing an amazing and dangerous job. Very proud of the NATO troops.bada wrote:Well yeah the hawks are consistent. I'm sure Rubio hates it and John McCain is rolling is his grave. They want to bomb everyone. Trumps base are the people whose kids have to go over there.
You’d have a far easier time listing all the people who have come out in support of this approach than you would trying to list all of the people alarmed by it.Anders wrote:Lindsay Graham was highly critical of this. Mattis and the national security team were also critical.bada wrote:It is interesting that the left thought it was a great idea to get out when Barry wanted to do it and the right were opposed and that has flipped. Why could that be I wonder?
Yes, and I think of all sides of politics.McParadigm wrote:You’d have a far easier time listing all the people who have come out in support of this approach than you would trying to list all of the people alarmed by it.Anders wrote:Lindsay Graham was highly critical of this. Mattis and the national security team were also critical.bada wrote:It is interesting that the left thought it was a great idea to get out when Barry wanted to do it and the right were opposed and that has flipped. Why could that be I wonder?
Polling on the growing calls for Obama to increasing military intervention in Syria, 2016:bada wrote:It is interesting that the left thought it was a great idea to get out when Barry wanted to do it and the right were opposed and that has flipped. Why could that be I wonder?
Support (for an increase) falls across party and ideological lines: Two-thirds of moderates and conservatives approve; so do 54 percent of liberals.
On where partisan shifts were happening, 2017:do you think the US should be more or less involved in Syria?
People who said “more” or “about the same”: 61%
Less: 30%
37 percent of Democrats back Trump’s missile strikes. In 2013, 38 percent of Democrats supported Obama’s plan. That is well within the margin of error.
In 2013, when Barack Obama was president, a Washington Post–ABC News poll found that only 22 percent of Republicans supported the U.S. launching missile strikes against Syria in response to Bashar al-Assad using chemical weapons against civilians.
A new Post-ABC poll finds that 86 percent of Republicans support Donald Trump’s decision to launch strikes on Syria for the same reason. Only 11 percent are opposed.