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Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:01 pm
by stip
an album of 90 30 second snippets?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:01 pm
by Farmer John
harmless wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
stip wrote:i really love the bridge. Best part of the song.
Yep.
The bridge is always the best part of a PJ song. I've always said they should make an experimental album consisting of nothing but bridges.
They wouldn't be bridges anymore.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:02 pm
by Jorge
stip wrote:They're taking your innocence and then they [something]--burning fire/pyre
throw it in a burning pile?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:02 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
harmless wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
stip wrote:i really love the bridge. Best part of the song.
Yep.
The bridge is always the best part of a PJ song. I've always said they should make an experimental album consisting of nothing but bridges.
Unless you count the middle-8 of "The Fixer" as a "bridge". That's probably the lamest moment in their entire catalog.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:02 pm
by epilogue
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:They're taking your innocence and then they [something]--burning fire/pyre
throw it in a burning pile?
Oooooh!

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:02 pm
by stip
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:They're taking your innocence and then they [something]--burning fire/pyre
throw it in a burning pile?
could be?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:02 pm
by Heathen
stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:I've got an unfortunate feeling
I've been beaten down
I feel I'm done believing THANK YOU! I was having a hell of time with that line. But I think you got it.
And now the truth is coming out
What they take is more than a bow
They're taking your innocence and then they [something]

All alone they're singing Might be 'all ALONG they're singing
Mind your manners

I caught myself believing that I needed God
And if [something] is over then we sure could use him now
Tried my patience, my patience tried
This world's alone [something] makes me wanna cry

All alone they're singing
Mind your manners
(son of Satan? lol)

Self-realizing that I'm physically redeemed
May not live another life
May not solve our mystery
Ride high around the corner Pretty sure it's 'RIGHT around the corner (like RI-HIGHT)
Could be bigger than ourselves
Wake and wither to the sky I'm hearing 'we could will it to the sky'
Or we could something else

Go to heaven, that's swell
How do you like your like your living Hell?
Nice work. I'm hearing some of it a bit differently. But, really good hustle, buddy.


They're taking your innocence and then they [something]--burning fire/pyre
And if [something] is over then we sure could use him now--and if it's hot this summer?

I think this guy got the burning valhalla thing right
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 529#p87529

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:03 pm
by stip
okay RM, it was fun sharing this moment with you. I have to go be a dad for a few hours

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:03 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:Incidentally, I like the album artwork (if that's album artwork!) and, along with the somewhat silly title, it suggests to me that they did try to go for archetypally classic / cock rock stylings. That means lightning and thunder and fire, bitches. Given that, I don't hate 'Lightning Bolt' and if it sounds slightly silly and fun, it was probably meant to.

the art didn't make me like the title, but it made me dislike it a lot less.

Or it might just be that since I quite like the song I don't really care so much right now about the title.
Yeah. It could be any of the above. But I really like the artwork; it reminds me of some of the independently-made, screen-printed film posters I've seen. I like the block colours and symbols they have going on. And it looks less cartoony than Backspacer's artwork.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:03 pm
by epilogue
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:They're taking your innocence and then they [something]--burning fire/pyre
throw it in a burning pile?
Maybe. But I'm hearing more syllables.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:03 pm
by dimejinky99
This band are weird. They spent their youth trying to sound like old men, now they're old and they want to sound like young men.

The two 'choruses' or whatever those multi tracked ev harmonies are, are really pulling it out of the fire for me.

It's pretty good. Not a top tier tune but a good one.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:03 pm
by bodysnatcher
stip wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:Olé makes much more sense now. Sure, I didn't enjoy that, but it's like it was a needed first stab at baby steps towards something they wanted to accomplish/

It seems like that. Or that Ole is the shiny pop punk version.
Yeah def.
The existence of MYM seems there's a pretty small chance that Olé will be on Lightning Bolt :haha:

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:04 pm
by epilogue
Heathen wrote:I think this guy got the burning valhalla thing right
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 529#p87529
Maybe, but I'm still not sold on it.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:05 pm
by harmless
Farmer John wrote:
harmless wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
stip wrote:i really love the bridge. Best part of the song.
Yep.
The bridge is always the best part of a PJ song. I've always said they should make an experimental album consisting of nothing but bridges.
They wouldn't be bridges anymore.
It would be in effect like a non-abrasive grindcore album, with every song lasting around 30 seconds.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:05 pm
by hlniv
For me, I don't think anything can compare to the 1st listen of Brain of J after popping in the brand new Yield disc. Even as I had heard that song previously, the raw attack just hit me right over the head. I still rock out to that cut 15 years later. Yes, this is similar in feel, but MYM doesn't really hit you as hard as Brain of J does.

That said, this is definitely my favorite lead single off of any record since Yield. While it certainly gets to a familiar place, it doesn't stay there, and there's plenty of freshness in how it gets there. It's layered and complex, but somehow still in your face. The melodies are strong, which is unusual for such a quick, short, punk style tune. Overall, just a nice blend of everyone's talents, nothing in particluar stands out, just a few decent riffs, with some transitions and vocals that fit. It certainly is a song that should sound great live.

My only complaint is with the backing vocals, not sure they really add anything, just makes it sound too polished

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:07 pm
by harmless
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
harmless wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
stip wrote:i really love the bridge. Best part of the song.
Yep.
The bridge is always the best part of a PJ song. I've always said they should make an experimental album consisting of nothing but bridges.
Unless you count the middle-8 of "The Fixer" as a "bridge". That's probably the lamest moment in their entire catalog.
Didn't you just label MYM as 'too creative'? Needless to say I disagree. A lot of people dislike the Fixer by default. I don't, and I don't dislike the bridge either.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:07 pm
by McParadigm
I'm just glad the ending gives us the all Eddie Vedder call and response mating screech we've wanted...nay, needed...for so many years.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:08 pm
by bodysnatcher
dudes. the intro to this song is gonna sound so slick when slowed down for the "heaviest jam pearl jam ever played" thread

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:08 pm
by Thejambi
You really have to buy the album right now to get the single?

It is a little disappointing the tracklist isn't up

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Thu July 11, 2013 9:09 pm
by harmless
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:I think it's very Matt/Jeff-ish so people are automatically gonna hate it because it's too creative.
:haha:

Too fucking creative? Come on. Out of all the good things you could say about this song, this is the silliest. It sounds like a hundred punk songs from the 1980s. And I like the thing.
THAT'S RIGHT SHITHEAD! It's more creative than their typical pop-punk numbers. I didn't say it was Bohemian Fucking Rhapsody.
It's not really. You might not have liked those as much, but they're no less 'creative'. This is a cookie cutter punk song, same as them. It's OK.