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Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:04 pm
by Norah
And the Red Sox had intsructed every young pitcher to do whatever Beckett does. So you had a clubhouse full of little Becketts.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:04 pm
by @SkitchP
jesus christ phil get in here and make a pick because this is about to turn into another fucking red sox thread. I think i can hear elliseamos headed this way

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:06 pm
by Lament
Should we talk about Steve Sparks?

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:06 pm
by Self
Yaz.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:07 pm
by Lament
Self wrote:Yaz.
You sound like Hawk Harrelson.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:08 pm
by numbers
Former Red Sox great, Hawk Harrelson.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:09 pm
by Self
Lament wrote:
Self wrote:Yaz.
You sound like Hawk Harrelson.
I'm willing to change that to Billy Beane/Brad Pitt.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:11 pm
by numbers
cutuphalfdead wrote:And the Red Sox had intsructed every young pitcher to do whatever Beckett does. So you had a clubhouse full of little Becketts.
As a result of this, Jon Lester now speaks with a fake Texas accent.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:12 pm
by Norah
@SkitchP wrote:jesus christ phil get in here and make a pick because this is about to turn into another fucking red sox thread. I think i can hear elliseamos headed this way
Fuck, he ruins everything.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:12 pm
by Lament
Self wrote:I'm willing to change that to Billy Beane/Brad Pitt.
The best part of Moneyball is when Billy Beane trashes Kenny Williams for the way he was building his team & then that very White Sox he was building won the World Series.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:12 pm
by Norah
numbers wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:And the Red Sox had intsructed every young pitcher to do whatever Beckett does. So you had a clubhouse full of little Becketts.
As a result of this, Jon Lester now speaks with a fake Texas accent.
But fortunately it's the only thing that stuck.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:17 pm
by Lament
Phil gets skipped in about 35 minutes.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)/#BRL (22)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:59 pm
by Lament
#BRL is now on the clock.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)/#BRL (22)

Posted: Thu September 04, 2014 12:02 am
by 4/5
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Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)/#BRL (22)

Posted: Thu September 04, 2014 12:27 am
by philpritchard
Sorry for ruining everything, guys. Let's go with Jim Edmonds.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: 4/5 (21)

Posted: Thu September 04, 2014 12:34 am
by philpritchard
numbers wrote:Lately I've been trying to delve into advanced stats more thoroughly than I have in the past, and I've got some qualms with WAR so far. It has it's value, but it doesn't seem to me like it's the all encompassing telltale that some make it out to be.
I don think many people try to paint it that way. It gives you a good idea of what a player's value is, but you have to look at the underlying stats to get the bigger picture

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: 4/5 (21)

Posted: Thu September 04, 2014 12:41 am
by philpritchard
@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
numbers wrote:So if you are DHing it affects your WAR negatively? That doesn't seem fair.

I think it has more to do with the fact that the Replacement level DH generally has better offensive numbers on average, so as a DH it requires better numbers than say a 2B.
Wait, WAR isn't calculated comparative to the average player at your position, it's calculated compared to the average player in general, no?

Maybe I am understanding it wrong, but i thought it did adjust for position. Like Miggy is actually a decent 1B, and a terrible 3B, but because the average offensive statistics for a 1B are better, it doesn't help is overall WAR.
I don't think it has anything to do with offensive stats though. The positional adjustment is there because the easy defensive positions are easy to find someone to fill in. It's essentially a defensive adjustment. A poor defensive shortstop is still more valuable defensively than an elite defensive first baseman. That's what the positional adjustment is accounting for.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: 4/5 (21)

Posted: Thu September 04, 2014 12:47 am
by @SkitchP
philpritchard wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
numbers wrote:So if you are DHing it affects your WAR negatively? That doesn't seem fair.

I think it has more to do with the fact that the Replacement level DH generally has better offensive numbers on average, so as a DH it requires better numbers than say a 2B.
Wait, WAR isn't calculated comparative to the average player at your position, it's calculated compared to the average player in general, no?

Maybe I am understanding it wrong, but i thought it did adjust for position. Like Miggy is actually a decent 1B, and a terrible 3B, but because the average offensive statistics for a 1B are better, it doesn't help is overall WAR.
I don't think it has anything to do with offensive stats though. The positional adjustment is there because the easy defensive positions are easy to find someone to fill in. It's essentially a defensive adjustment. A poor defensive shortstop is still more valuable defensively than an elite defensive first baseman. That's what the positional adjustment is accounting for.
i know.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament:#BRL (22)

Posted: Thu September 04, 2014 12:47 am
by Lament
I'm disregarding all statistics when making my picks and am just going by who Hawk tells me has "the will to win."

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament:#BRL (22)

Posted: Thu September 04, 2014 12:51 am
by Norah
Is it my turn?