Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (22)
Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 11:04 pm
And the Red Sox had intsructed every young pitcher to do whatever Beckett does. So you had a clubhouse full of little Becketts.
You sound like Hawk Harrelson.Self wrote:Yaz.
I'm willing to change that to Billy Beane/Brad Pitt.Lament wrote:You sound like Hawk Harrelson.Self wrote:Yaz.
As a result of this, Jon Lester now speaks with a fake Texas accent.cutuphalfdead wrote:And the Red Sox had intsructed every young pitcher to do whatever Beckett does. So you had a clubhouse full of little Becketts.
Fuck, he ruins everything.@SkitchP wrote:jesus christ phil get in here and make a pick because this is about to turn into another fucking red sox thread. I think i can hear elliseamos headed this way
The best part of Moneyball is when Billy Beane trashes Kenny Williams for the way he was building his team & then that very White Sox he was building won the World Series.Self wrote:I'm willing to change that to Billy Beane/Brad Pitt.
But fortunately it's the only thing that stuck.numbers wrote:As a result of this, Jon Lester now speaks with a fake Texas accent.cutuphalfdead wrote:And the Red Sox had intsructed every young pitcher to do whatever Beckett does. So you had a clubhouse full of little Becketts.

I don think many people try to paint it that way. It gives you a good idea of what a player's value is, but you have to look at the underlying stats to get the bigger picturenumbers wrote:Lately I've been trying to delve into advanced stats more thoroughly than I have in the past, and I've got some qualms with WAR so far. It has it's value, but it doesn't seem to me like it's the all encompassing telltale that some make it out to be.
I don't think it has anything to do with offensive stats though. The positional adjustment is there because the easy defensive positions are easy to find someone to fill in. It's essentially a defensive adjustment. A poor defensive shortstop is still more valuable defensively than an elite defensive first baseman. That's what the positional adjustment is accounting for.@SkitchP wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Wait, WAR isn't calculated comparative to the average player at your position, it's calculated compared to the average player in general, no?@SkitchP wrote:numbers wrote:So if you are DHing it affects your WAR negatively? That doesn't seem fair.
I think it has more to do with the fact that the Replacement level DH generally has better offensive numbers on average, so as a DH it requires better numbers than say a 2B.
Maybe I am understanding it wrong, but i thought it did adjust for position. Like Miggy is actually a decent 1B, and a terrible 3B, but because the average offensive statistics for a 1B are better, it doesn't help is overall WAR.
i know.philpritchard wrote:I don't think it has anything to do with offensive stats though. The positional adjustment is there because the easy defensive positions are easy to find someone to fill in. It's essentially a defensive adjustment. A poor defensive shortstop is still more valuable defensively than an elite defensive first baseman. That's what the positional adjustment is accounting for.@SkitchP wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Wait, WAR isn't calculated comparative to the average player at your position, it's calculated compared to the average player in general, no?@SkitchP wrote:numbers wrote:So if you are DHing it affects your WAR negatively? That doesn't seem fair.
I think it has more to do with the fact that the Replacement level DH generally has better offensive numbers on average, so as a DH it requires better numbers than say a 2B.
Maybe I am understanding it wrong, but i thought it did adjust for position. Like Miggy is actually a decent 1B, and a terrible 3B, but because the average offensive statistics for a 1B are better, it doesn't help is overall WAR.