Red Mosquito

damn this band has an impressive catalogue.

VinylGuy wrote:damn this band has an impressive catalogue.

Yea, sure wish they appreciated that :\

had a dream last night that i was flipping the channels, and stumbled across PJ playing the local access channel. just them in an apartment or something. played a new song, and it was really good. kinda reminded me of Grievance.

They've already rescheduled the cancelled London date. July 19th.

Impressive. That's awesome.

I'm usually quite down on EV's modern vocals but he sounds amazing in Don't Dream It's Over with Chris Martin a few years back:

2016 was a banner year for Ed. He sounded great at Wrigley too. By and large he seems to have taken it up a notch in the last several years. The complaints about his 53 year old voice are (mostly) overblown. I mean, the fact he's only had to cancel one show after 27 years of touring is remarkable.

I understand questioning his approach to certain songs, but hearing him live is almost always a good time.

(All hail hail Edmund Veder and worship him lest you be on the wrong side of the Jamily and history.)

Strat wrote:They've already rescheduled the cancelled London date. July 19th.

Impressive. That's awesome.

I have zero doubt that they (or some of them, what do I know) feel a very real guilt about cancelling a show that some people will have committed hard-won resources to experiencing. They still very much seem like those guys to me.

Really, whatever else you think of those records, every release since riot act has had the singular artistic ambition of “let’s make our audience happy.“ They might try different approaches to achieving that, or imbue the effort with a specific feel or theme, but the intention is the same. Like they came out of that era with the conclusion that it was their best purpose.

You could also argue that trying to please others rather than committing to an artistic statement of the self is part of why some or all of those records fail, but I find the desire noble.

McParadigm wrote:

Strat wrote:They've already rescheduled the cancelled London date. July 19th.

Impressive. That's awesome.

I have zero doubt that they (or some of them, what do I know) feel a very real guilt about cancelling a show that some people will have committed hard-won resources to experiencing. They still very much seem like those guys to me.

Really, whatever else you think of those records, every release since riot act has had the singular artistic ambition of “let’s make our audience happy.“ They might try different approaches to achieving that, or imbue the effort with a specific feel or theme, but the intention is the same. Like they came out of that era with the conclusion that it was their best purpose.

You could also argue that trying to please others rather than committing to an artistic statement of the self is part of why some or all of those records fail, but I find the desire noble.

Along these lines and more specifically, the aim seems to be "what will sound good and play well in a live setting." The live shows have taken precedence. Makes total sense, when you consider where the music industry has gone. Makes even more sense when you take into account it's one of the only rock bands left on earth that is still playing music together after 27 years and has a small(?) business of employees to pay, year in and year out.

All that said, I lament the approach.

tragabigzanda wrote:you guys are trying to normalize Lightning Bolt

evenslow wrote:I lament the approach.

Everyone’s a critic

lookin' back up the river.

Strat wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:damn this band has an impressive catalogue.

Yea, sure wish they appreciated that :\

They do. According to livefootsteps’ songs in hiding, they only have 17 songs that they haven’t played in the last 100 shows.

Of those, only 7 tracks are from their 10 albums: Get Right, Arc, Bushleaguer, Johnny Guitar, Force of Nature, Bugs, and Unemployable. Bushleaguer is irrelevant, Arc was stopped at 9 for Roskilde victims, and Bugs is a novelty song.

The rest are 8 b-sides or Lost Dogs (Dirty Frank, Dead Man, Outta My Mind, Undone, Brother, Sweet Lew, Driftin’, Other Side) plus Ole and Just a Girl.

Didn’t they play Angel last time you saw them? If anything, this band appreciates its catalogue too much.

bodysnatcher wrote:had a dream last night that i was flipping the channels, and stumbled across PJ playing the local access channel. just them in an apartment or something. played a new song, and it was really good. kinda reminded me of Grievance.

Describe the hat Jeff was wearing

daft twat wrote:

Strat wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:damn this band has an impressive catalogue.

Yea, sure wish they appreciated that :\

They do. According to livefootsteps’ songs in hiding, they only have 17 songs that they haven’t played in the last 100 shows.

Of those, only 7 tracks are from their 10 albums: Get Right, Arc, Bushleaguer, Johnny Guitar, Force of Nature, Bugs, and Unemployable. Bushleaguer is irrelevant, Arc was stopped at 9 for Roskilde victims, and Bugs is a novelty song.

The rest are 8 b-sides or Lost Dogs (Dirty Frank, Dead Man, Outta My Mind, Undone, Brother, Sweet Lew, Driftin’, Other Side) plus Ole and Just a Girl.

Didn’t they play Angel last time you saw them? If anything, this band appreciates its catalogue too much.

My point still stands. Why does it feel like a treat or a special occasion when we do get something from Binaural, Riot Act, or pick any thing else post 1995. Yes, they play all of their songs and I feel lucky for it, but they are obviously very top heavy in the songs they cheose to get excited about playing on a regular basis. And those songs are generally from their first few years as a band.

McParadigm wrote:

Strat wrote:They've already rescheduled the cancelled London date. July 19th.

Impressive. That's awesome.

I have zero doubt that they (or some of them, what do I know) feel a very real guilt about cancelling a show that some people will have committed hard-won resources to experiencing. They still very much seem like those guys to me.

Really, whatever else you think of those records, every release since riot act has had the singular artistic ambition of “let’s make our audience happy.“ They might try different approaches to achieving that, or imbue the effort with a specific feel or theme, but the intention is the same. Like they came out of that era with the conclusion that it was their best purpose.

You could also argue that trying to please others rather than committing to an artistic statement of the self is part of why some or all of those records fail, but I find the desire noble.

I was at the first night of London last week. Eddie was clearly struggling (at one point curled up in a ball behind the stage) but he still gave it 100%, tackling songs like Deep, Mind Your Manners and Do The Evolution. He nor the band never, ever half arse anything live.

Lost 9 friends we’ll never know. 18 years ago today


Hit me hard cos I was on that tour and met a couple of them. And I won’t forget em. I can’t.
They’re up there.

dimejinky99 wrote:Lost 9 friends we’ll never know. 18 years ago today


Hit me hard cos I was on that tour and met a couple of them. And I won’t forget em. I can’t.
They’re up there.

A heartbreaking accident 18 years later.