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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:21 pm
by Juvenal
dimejinky99 wrote:There's a lyric that comes to mind about this whole thing and people with their enjoyment and disappointment.
Are we bound out of obligation? Is that all we've got?
Ding ding ding
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:21 pm
by BobSacremento
The only thing that slightly resembles Unthought Known in Lightning Bolt is the palm muted guitar work. Different key, different tempo, and different vibes (UK is more contemplative where LB is a bit more upbeat and rocking)
So yeah I never got the comparisons either. The vocal melodies are too different
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:22 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:Strat wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Strat not reverting back to full on fanboi Strat combines nicely with the KD review in reinforcing my complete and utter lack of any expectations for this record.
Where is KD's review?
it's a few pages back
to sum up
based on one listen
some parts he liked in each song
overall didn't feel inspired. Not bad songs, but not compelling songs
Compelling. Yea, i like that word for these songs.
Although, I do think Getaway is fucking great.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:22 pm
by stip
i think unthought known and lightning bolt may be the two most similar songs in the catalog!
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:22 pm
by dimejinky99
Juvenal wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Strat not reverting back to full on fanboi Strat combines nicely with the KD review in reinforcing my complete and utter lack of any expectations for this record.
Reads as
I didn't like it and needed the naysayers to back me up so therefore I'm happy.
I haven't listened to the "leak", dimebag
Silly you, dime, for imagining he had listened to the songs before forming an opinion!
Really? He's complaining and he hasn't heard em?
He's a hardcore fan.
Probably waiting on the vinyl to arrive.
(See you next February)
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:23 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Juvenal wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Strat not reverting back to full on fanboi Strat combines nicely with the KD review in reinforcing my complete and utter lack of any expectations for this record.
Reads as
I didn't like it and needed the naysayers to back me up so therefore I'm happy.
I haven't listened to the "leak", dimebag
Silly you, dime, for imagining he had listened to the songs before forming an opinion!
That's what young trolls do
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:24 pm
by verb_to_trust
Yes, how silly of me to have some restraint and not seek out some garbage half leak. This band has disappointed for about a decade now, if things were going to be different this time around, the early returns would be reading a lot differently one would think.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:24 pm
by harmless
verb_to_trust wrote:Strat not reverting back to full on fanboi Strat combines nicely with the KD review in reinforcing my complete and utter lack of any expectations for this record.
Alibis are gathering.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:24 pm
by dimejinky99
Lounge Lizard wrote:Juvenal wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Strat not reverting back to full on fanboi Strat combines nicely with the KD review in reinforcing my complete and utter lack of any expectations for this record.
Reads as
I didn't like it and needed the naysayers to back me up so therefore I'm happy.
I haven't listened to the "leak", dimebag
Silly you, dime, for imagining he had listened to the songs before forming an opinion!
That's what young trolls do
Verb is a long term RM member so ill give him fair hearing.
But if he hasn't heard them and is complaining.. Well..
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:25 pm
by verb_to_trust
Lounge Lizard wrote:Juvenal wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Strat not reverting back to full on fanboi Strat combines nicely with the KD review in reinforcing my complete and utter lack of any expectations for this record.
Reads as
I didn't like it and needed the naysayers to back me up so therefore I'm happy.
I haven't listened to the "leak", dimebag
Silly you, dime, for imagining he had listened to the songs before forming an opinion!
That's what young trolls do
I'm 29, lot liz. Old enough to know better, but young enough not to care.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:26 pm
by BobSacremento
stip wrote:i think unthought known and lightning bolt may be the two most similar songs in the catalog!
I was actually thinking about this very subject of songs that sound like each other, I get that vibe from Grievance and Insignificance and even like Marker In The Sand and Big Wave
Not so much LB and UK as for some reason I am not really hearing the similarities beyond a palm muted guitar thing and Ed's vocals being up front but obviously a lot of people hear it so it may just be me lol
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:26 pm
by verb_to_trust
BobSacremento wrote:The only thing that slightly resembles Unthought Known in Lightning Bolt is the palm muted guitar work. Different key, different tempo, and different vibes (UK is more contemplative where LB is a bit more upbeat and rocking)
So yeah I never got the comparisons either. The vocal melodies are too different
The real problem is that Eddie only knows a handful of guitar chords....
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:27 pm
by dimejinky99
BobSacremento wrote:stip wrote:i think unthought known and lightning bolt may be the two most similar songs in the catalog!
I was actually thinking about this very subject of songs that sound like each other, I get that vibe from Grievance and Insignificance and even like Marker In The Sand and Big Wave
Not so much LB and UK as for some reason I am not really hearing the similarities beyond a palm muted guitar thing and Ed's vocals being up front but obviously a lot of people hear it so it may just be me lol
Getaway sounds like Fixers older wiser brother.
Stip?
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:28 pm
by harmless
LB and UK might sound superficially similar, but they're both similar to Wishlist if you're talking about palm-muted guitar, and so was Love Boat Captain. I also think Insignificance is very like Grievance. So are the titles.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:28 pm
by Lounge Lizard
verb_to_trust wrote:Yes, how silly of me to have some restraint and not seek out some garbage half leak. This band has disappointed for about a decade now, if things were going to be different this time around, the early returns would be reading a lot differently one would think.
you need to rely so much on what other people say and think? Have your own opinion for fucks sake. You've made it your shtick that you have to hate it without even hearing it and seek support in every negative post you can find. Some insecurity, eh
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:28 pm
by verb_to_trust
dimejinky99 wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:Juvenal wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Strat not reverting back to full on fanboi Strat combines nicely with the KD review in reinforcing my complete and utter lack of any expectations for this record.
Reads as
I didn't like it and needed the naysayers to back me up so therefore I'm happy.
I haven't listened to the "leak", dimebag
Silly you, dime, for imagining he had listened to the songs before forming an opinion!
That's what young trolls do
Verb is a long term RM member so ill give him fair hearing.
But if he hasn't heard them and is complaining.. Well..
I'll be the first to say I like new songs. But based on everything that is being said, I would be shocked if I am impressed.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:29 pm
by Juvenal
Mary Had A Little Lamb is a bit like Creeping Death. They're both songs.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:31 pm
by stip
dimejinky99 wrote:BobSacremento wrote:stip wrote:i think unthought known and lightning bolt may be the two most similar songs in the catalog!
I was actually thinking about this very subject of songs that sound like each other, I get that vibe from Grievance and Insignificance and even like Marker In The Sand and Big Wave
Not so much LB and UK as for some reason I am not really hearing the similarities beyond a palm muted guitar thing and Ed's vocals being up front but obviously a lot of people hear it so it may just be me lol
Getaway sounds like Fixers older wiser brother.
Stip?
that's not a connection that jumped out at me but the next time I listen to getaway (or fixer) I'll listen for it.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:32 pm
by dimejinky99
stip wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:BobSacremento wrote:stip wrote:i think unthought known and lightning bolt may be the two most similar songs in the catalog!
I was actually thinking about this very subject of songs that sound like each other, I get that vibe from Grievance and Insignificance and even like Marker In The Sand and Big Wave
Not so much LB and UK as for some reason I am not really hearing the similarities beyond a palm muted guitar thing and Ed's vocals being up front but obviously a lot of people hear it so it may just be me lol
Getaway sounds like Fixers older wiser brother.
Stip?
It's more about phrasing and rhythm and a developed melody. I can hear it.
that's not a connection that jumped out at me but the next time I listen to getaway (or fixer) I'll listen for it.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sat September 14, 2013 8:33 pm
by verb_to_trust
Lounge Lizard wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Yes, how silly of me to have some restraint and not seek out some garbage half leak. This band has disappointed for about a decade now, if things were going to be different this time around, the early returns would be reading a lot differently one would think.
you need to rely so much on what other people say and think? Have your own opinion for fucks sake. You've made it your shtick that you have to hate it without even hearing it and seek support in every negative post you can find. Some insecurity, eh
I haven't listened to the leak. Maybe if it was obvious these songs were killer I would seek it out. I for one, feel like you guys are doing yourselves a pretty big disservice listening to a couple leaked tracks before the album is released in only a month.
Again, if I end up liking the songs, I will gladly tell you guys all about it. But sometimes you can see the writing on the wall...