Red Mosquito

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR.

We need spenno here, stat

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR

Tj wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR.

We need spenno here, stat

CC is a top 10 song for me.

harmless wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR.

We need spenno here, stat

Has he heard it?

Heathen wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR

Polls disagree

Tj wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR.

We need spenno here, stat

CC is a top 10 song for me.

Tj wrote:

Tj wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR.

We need spenno here, stat

CC is a top 10 song for me.

In fact tied for the top spot cause I can't pick or put these in order they tie.
Black,Cordroy Given to Fly, Unthought Known, Just Breath, CC, Longroad,LastExit, Tremor Christ, and In my Tree

harmless wrote:

Heathen wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR

Polls disagree

Everyone knows polls are the correct method for determining these things.

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:Idk I think its reasonable to see other peoples responses to a song and be able to get a feeling of whether you're gonna like it or not, especially if you generally know what the other posters feelings on various songs/ the band are.

It's not like he said Welp not even gonna bother listening to it when it comes out.

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Think back to when Cold Cofession and Let it Ride leaked........totally different reaction.

From the same curmudgeons who moan about the new stuff. I did not go ape shit over those two songs and I've only listened to them about three times, in spite of the fact I like them. I don't like them as much as I like these. CC is actually incredibly boring until halfway through. You loved them because they represented old PJ, and all the same people who loved them for that reason, hate this stuff. It's nothing short of predictable.

Like from this and conversations we've had in the past about stuff like ATW I know that our tastes in PJ are pretty different. When I heard CC and LiR I didn't think wow reminds me of 90s PJ I thought 'wow! Music I like!'. And unless BoB speed of sounded it I wouldn't care if he produced it. I replayed them about 50 timed the first few days I had them.

Cool, and that's a good thing. But I've probably listened to this 4-song leak around 100 times now, so my reaction is the same. And I still loved CC and LIR. I just love both sides of the coin, and I'm not asking for anything from PJ other than something I enjoy.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Tj wrote:

Tj wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR.

We need spenno here, stat

CC is a top 10 song for me.

In fact tied for the top spot cause I can't pick or put these in order they tie.
Black,Cordroy Given to Fly, Unthought Known, Just Breath, CC, Longroad,LastExit, Tremor Christ, and In my Tree

Only sign you can trust that a band have achieved greatness, is by the vast gulfs of opinion in its fan base

Pj are the best band ever if you follow my logic.

Heathen wrote:

harmless wrote:

Heathen wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR

Polls disagree

Everyone knows polls are the correct method for determining these things.

Only because the new songs aren't on youtube yet.

dimejinky99 wrote:Apparently the new single next week is sirens

Heathen wrote:

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harmless wrote:

digster wrote:

harmless wrote: 'Just a rock band' isn't an insult unless you take it as one. They were absolutely a rock band, but they were a rock band we fucking loved and effectively sold our souls to.

Maybe people just don't like these songs. Maybe there's not this weird bias that's coloring their approach to new material. Sometimes the easiest explanation is the right one.

Right, so it would be really nice if people were saying that, rather than saying "Obviously if poster X,Y and Z aren't liking the songs, I won't fucking them either. Look at the schmucks who like the songs, I mean PJ have lost it, why can't these idiots see that?" Is this the easiest explanation, that PJ has just finished and everyone else who likes their stuff is just a twat?

I don't want to go down a long road on this, so all I'll say is that while talking PJ's music is interesting, talking about the biases that stop people from liking new PJ stuff, whether it's not like pop music or not liking the band at all or thinking they're experimental when they never were, or any of that, sounds boring. It's come up a lot here in the past few years and it's way more annoying that someone feeling negative about new material, to me at least. And this is coming from someone who finds a lot to like in the new stuff.

It is (and I'm certainly guilty of starting some of those conversations). But as someone who does like the majority of newer era stuff it is also frustrating to talk about it on a forum where there is an aggressive and persistent block of posters who spend a lot of time disliking songs and trying to establish that people who do like them are stupid, have shitty tastes, are too easily pleased, etc. It shifts a conversation away from the pros and cons of the music (and discussions about WHY you don't like something are almost always interesting and entertaining and enlightening) and make it about the listener instead. So it's not uprising that people get defensive when an opinion about music becomes an attack on someone's character.

The negavitiy you speak of is even more exaggerated this time than it usually is. Come on it's normal that if I heard a song before you, and I loved it, knowing our taste don't overlap much you'd be less enthusiastic than if it were, I don't know, whoever has a taste that matches yours better. No one said you were stupid for liking these songs, stop using that argument.

harmless wrote:

Heathen wrote:

harmless wrote:

Heathen wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR

Polls disagree

Everyone knows polls are the correct method for determining these things.

Only because the new songs aren't on youtube yet.

stupidmop wrote:

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:Idk I think its reasonable to see other peoples responses to a song and be able to get a feeling of whether you're gonna like it or not, especially if you generally know what the other posters feelings on various songs/ the band are.

It's not like he said Welp not even gonna bother listening to it when it comes out.

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Think back to when Cold Cofession and Let it Ride leaked........totally different reaction.

From the same curmudgeons who moan about the new stuff. I did not go ape shit over those two songs and I've only listened to them about three times, in spite of the fact I like them. I don't like them as much as I like these. CC is actually incredibly boring until halfway through. You loved them because they represented old PJ, and all the same people who loved them for that reason, hate this stuff. It's nothing short of predictable.

Like from this and conversations we've had in the past about stuff like ATW I know that our tastes in PJ are pretty different. When I heard CC and LiR I didn't think wow reminds me of 90s PJ I thought 'wow! Music I like!'. And unless BoB speed of sounded it I wouldn't care if he produced it. I replayed them about 50 timed the first few days I had them.

Cool, and that's a good thing. But I've probably listened to this 4-song leak around 100 times now, so my reaction is the same. And I still loved CC and LIR. I just love both sides of the coin, and I'm not asking for anything from PJ other than something I enjoy.

Sure but people are allowed to be dissapointed when the band produces something they don't enjoy. Or apprehensive about what's coming, ill tell you right now that if I don't like those other songs I'm probably going to post my own thoroughly dramatic RIP PJ post. Sure reading about it sucks if its something you do like, but its gonna happen. It's like reading the YouTube comments on a video you like, you know what's coming.


I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore or why I jumped in the conversation. I hope the other songs leak soon.

dimejinky99 wrote:Apparently the new single next week is sirens

Tj wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Tj wrote:

Tj wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR.

We need spenno here, stat

CC is a top 10 song for me.

In fact tied for the top spot cause I can't pick or put these in order they tie.
Black,Cordroy Given to Fly, Unthought Known, Just Breath, CC, Longroad,LastExit, Tremor Christ, and In my Tree

Only sign you can trust that a band have achieved greatness, is by the vast gulfs of opinion in its fan base

Pj are the best band ever if you follow my logic.

I can't believe I admitted to two Backspacer songs being that highly regarded by myself. I will never be respected again by Pearl Jam hipsters

harmless wrote:

Heathen wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Every one of these songs are better than CC/LIR

Polls disagree

Everyone knows polls are the correct method for determining these things.