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Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 4:52 pm
by Bammer
macphisto wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.

again you are missing the point

yes it is inevitable most if not all will get it. but what vaccinations do is limit in large part any symptoms you may experience. the masks help limit the spread of the virus to those who do not have it.
Everyone in America has had a chance to be vaccinated for months though (kids aren't at risk). What's your goal?
wE jUsT nEeD a LiTtLe MoRe SaCrIfIcE fRoM eVeRyOnE tO fLaTtEn ThE cUrVe.
:idea:

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 4:57 pm
by Jorge
Man that alternating caps thing just kills every time

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 4:58 pm
by Bammer
Strat wrote:
Bammer wrote:
spike wrote:wife’s taking a half day so we can take the kid to the zoo
Verb wrote: Oh DiD tHeY pUt MaSkS oN tHe ElEpHaNtS fInAlLy So YoU fEeL sAfE nOw?
lol

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:05 pm
by 4/5
Peeps wrote: Howre children’s cases going up not a risk?
"A risk" and "at risk" have very different connotations. Of course there is "a risk" associated with literally everything in life, including child cases of covid.

I'm trying to find data on child deaths real quick but it's tough. The latest number I've seen but didn't find in my two minute Google search just now is about 300 children (under the age of 18) nationwide have died of covid in since March 2020. A British study found the death rate for children (again under age 18) to be 0.000002, or 1 in 500,000. About half of the child deaths had conditions that would label them high risk.

Compare this to other age groups, from today's Washington Post:
85+ = 0.028 or 2.8% (1 in 35)
65-84 = 0.0067 or 0.67% (1 in 150)
40-64 = 0.0013 or 0.13% (1 in 780)

No, the risk isn't zero for children, but I think suggesting they are "at risk" robs that term of any meaning.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:08 pm
by simple schoolboy
Jorge wrote:Man that alternating caps thing just kills every time
Early 2000s online "AzN" culture is not your costume!

Edit: It's not appropriation if you add this:

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Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:12 pm
by Bammer
4/5 wrote:
Peeps wrote: Howre children’s cases going up not a risk?
"A risk" and "at risk" have very different connotations. Of course there is "a risk" associated with literally everything in life, including child cases of covid.

I'm trying to find data on child deaths real quick but it's tough. The latest number I've seen but didn't find in my two minute Google search just now is about 300 children (under the age of 18) nationwide have died of covid in since March 2020. A British study found the death rate for children (again under age 18) to be 0.000002, or 1 in 500,000. About half of the child deaths had conditions that would label them high risk.

Compare this to other age groups, from today's Washington Post:
85+ = 0.028 or 2.8% (1 in 35)
65-84 = 0.0067 or 0.67% (1 in 150)
40-64 = 0.0013 or 0.13% (1 in 780)

No, the risk isn't zero for children, but I think suggesting they are "at risk" robs that term of any meaning.
Died “of covid” or “with covid”?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:12 pm
by spike
verb_to_trust wrote:
spike wrote:
4/5 wrote:
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.
This is basically irrelevant at this point, as far as a return to normal.
Why?
Masks and mitigations forever until vaccinations go up.
Lol good luck with that
Don’t worry too much… we have federal vaccine mandates and vaccine approved for kids under 12 around the corner, so should improve somewhat.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:18 pm
by 4/5
Bammer wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Peeps wrote: Howre children’s cases going up not a risk?
"A risk" and "at risk" have very different connotations. Of course there is "a risk" associated with literally everything in life, including child cases of covid.

I'm trying to find data on child deaths real quick but it's tough. The latest number I've seen but didn't find in my two minute Google search just now is about 300 children (under the age of 18) nationwide have died of covid in since March 2020. A British study found the death rate for children (again under age 18) to be 0.000002, or 1 in 500,000. About half of the child deaths had conditions that would label them high risk.

Compare this to other age groups, from today's Washington Post:
85+ = 0.028 or 2.8% (1 in 35)
65-84 = 0.0067 or 0.67% (1 in 150)
40-64 = 0.0013 or 0.13% (1 in 780)

No, the risk isn't zero for children, but I think suggesting they are "at risk" robs that term of any meaning.
Died “of covid” or “with covid”?
Exact wording "attributable to COVID-19."

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:20 pm
by Peeps
as of sept 9, nearly 5.3 million kids have tested positive

that represented 15.5% of all cases (34,198,122)

almost 2% required hospitalization

.27% have died


this is only data from states that are reporting it

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:31 pm
by 4/5
Peeps wrote:as of sept 9, nearly 5.3 million kids have tested positive

that represented 15.5% of all cases (34,198,122)

almost 2% required hospitalization

.27% have died


this is only data from states that are reporting it
That .27% could be misleading. It's .27% of the positive tests. From that article:
Among states reporting, children were 0.00%-0.27% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 7 states reported zero child deaths.

​In states reporting, 0.00%-0.03 of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death.
I'm confused by the lack of a % symbol after the 0.03, seems like it must be a % based on the three numbers immediately before it. But either way these numbers are still in comparison to either covid deaths overall (first stat) or of child cases (second stat), which is to say that neither of these numbers is using the under age 18 population as the denominator so even these low numbers are overstating the risk children face from covid.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:33 pm
by surfndestroy
Peeps wrote:as of sept 9, nearly 5.3 million kids have tested positive

that represented 15.5% of all cases (34,198,122)

almost 2% required hospitalization

.27% have died


this is only data from states that are reporting it
Are you sure that over 14,000 kids (people under 12) have died of Covid in a subset of American states? This is a vastly different death rate than reported elsewhere in the world.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:34 pm
by blueviper

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:40 pm
by verb_to_trust
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.

again you are missing the point

yes it is inevitable most if not all will get it. but what vaccinations do is limit in large part any symptoms you may experience. the masks help limit the spread of the virus to those who do not have it.
Everyone in America has had a chance to be vaccinated for months though (kids aren't at risk). What's your goal?
kids arent at risk? tell that to my friends daughter. tell that to the highschool kids who got pulled from school because they tested positive here in town.

go on....ill wait for you to explain how that isnt possible
Who cares

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:41 pm
by verb_to_trust
Peeps wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.

again you are missing the point

yes it is inevitable most if not all will get it. but what vaccinations do is limit in large part any symptoms you may experience. the masks help limit the spread of the virus to those who do not have it.
Everyone in America has had a chance to be vaccinated for months though (kids aren't at risk). What's your goal?
kids arent at risk? tell that to my friends daughter. tell that to the highschool kids who got pulled from school because they tested positive here in town.

go on....ill wait for you to explain how that isnt possible
Verb said everybody will get it. Getting it (or testing positive) isn't the same thing as being "at risk."
Howre children’s cases going up not a risk?
Because they shrug it off unless they are 500 pounds and have aids?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:44 pm
by verb_to_trust
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
spike wrote:
4/5 wrote:
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.
This is basically irrelevant at this point, as far as a return to normal.
Why?
Masks and mitigations forever until vaccinations go up.
Lol good luck with that
Don’t worry too much… we have federal vaccine mandates and vaccine approved for kids under 12 around the corner, so should improve somewhat.

How many dumbasses willing to vaccinate their 5 year old for the common could can there possibly be?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:45 pm
by spike
verb_to_trust wrote:
Peeps wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.

again you are missing the point

yes it is inevitable most if not all will get it. but what vaccinations do is limit in large part any symptoms you may experience. the masks help limit the spread of the virus to those who do not have it.
Everyone in America has had a chance to be vaccinated for months though (kids aren't at risk). What's your goal?
kids arent at risk? tell that to my friends daughter. tell that to the highschool kids who got pulled from school because they tested positive here in town.

go on....ill wait for you to explain how that isnt possible
Verb said everybody will get it. Getting it (or testing positive) isn't the same thing as being "at risk."
Howre children’s cases going up not a risk?
Because they shrug it off unless they are 500 pounds and have aids?
Not good if their parents are unvaccinated, 500 pounds, and have aids.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:46 pm
by spike
verb_to_trust wrote:
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
spike wrote:
4/5 wrote:
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.
This is basically irrelevant at this point, as far as a return to normal.
Why?
Masks and mitigations forever until vaccinations go up.
Lol good luck with that
Don’t worry too much… we have federal vaccine mandates and vaccine approved for kids under 12 around the corner, so should improve somewhat.

How many dumbasses willing to vaccinate their 5 year old for the common could can there possibly be?
You wouldn’t vaccinate your children if you had some?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:46 pm
by verb_to_trust
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
spike wrote:
4/5 wrote:
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.
This is basically irrelevant at this point, as far as a return to normal.
Why?
Masks and mitigations forever until vaccinations go up.
Lol good luck with that
Don’t worry too much… we have federal vaccine mandates and vaccine approved for kids under 12 around the corner, so should improve somewhat.

How many dumbasses willing to vaccinate their 5 year old for the common could can there possibly be?
You wouldn’t vaccinate your children if you had some?
Not for shit they don't need

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:48 pm
by verb_to_trust
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Peeps wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.

again you are missing the point

yes it is inevitable most if not all will get it. but what vaccinations do is limit in large part any symptoms you may experience. the masks help limit the spread of the virus to those who do not have it.
Everyone in America has had a chance to be vaccinated for months though (kids aren't at risk). What's your goal?
kids arent at risk? tell that to my friends daughter. tell that to the highschool kids who got pulled from school because they tested positive here in town.

go on....ill wait for you to explain how that isnt possible
Verb said everybody will get it. Getting it (or testing positive) isn't the same thing as being "at risk."
Howre children’s cases going up not a risk?
Because they shrug it off unless they are 500 pounds and have aids?
Not good if their parents are unvaccinated, 500 pounds, and have aids.
But the parents have had a chance to be vaccinated for months? I'm confused is the vaccine any good or what?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Wed September 15, 2021 5:49 pm
by spike
verb_to_trust wrote:
spike wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Peeps wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:You're all going to get covid. All of you. Your kids too.

again you are missing the point

yes it is inevitable most if not all will get it. but what vaccinations do is limit in large part any symptoms you may experience. the masks help limit the spread of the virus to those who do not have it.
Everyone in America has had a chance to be vaccinated for months though (kids aren't at risk). What's your goal?
kids arent at risk? tell that to my friends daughter. tell that to the highschool kids who got pulled from school because they tested positive here in town.

go on....ill wait for you to explain how that isnt possible
Verb said everybody will get it. Getting it (or testing positive) isn't the same thing as being "at risk."
Howre children’s cases going up not a risk?
Because they shrug it off unless they are 500 pounds and have aids?
Not good if their parents are unvaccinated, 500 pounds, and have aids.
But the parents have had a chance to be vaccinated for months? I'm confused is the vaccine any good or what?
Pretty risky.