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Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed June 07, 2023 12:16 pm
by dimejinky99
Hope they’re gonna be ok Anders. Scary scary stuff.
Good thread and read on growing insurgence within Russia.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed June 07, 2023 4:49 pm
by Peeps
hoping for the best anders
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed June 07, 2023 5:10 pm
by blueviper
yes, hoping for the best for your family and everyone in that area, Anders.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed June 07, 2023 5:20 pm
by 96583UP
Jesus
Anders, so sorry
hoping for the best for them
god damn russian scum
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Thu June 08, 2023 3:59 pm
by Anders
A friend of their son picked them up in a rowing boat, and took them to a high-rise building, where they will stay with a friend of theirs on the 15th floor. At least safe from drowning.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Thu June 08, 2023 4:16 pm
by elliseamos
Unimaginable. Abandoning your house. I'm sorry for everyone.
Good luck and maybe quick relief to one and all.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Thu June 08, 2023 4:24 pm
by Anders
There is no running water now, and the family they are staying with have limited supplies of food and water.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri June 09, 2023 1:31 pm
by Anders
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri June 09, 2023 1:35 pm
by Anders
Shooting at people fleeing a flood. Absolutely sick.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 5:06 am
by simple schoolboy
Ukraine has lost like what, 10 percent of the M2 Bradleys donated?
What's the game plan for a negotiated end of the conflict? Ukraine and their supporters are publicly maximalist, but is there any chance Russia will agree to Feb 2022 borders with some useless assurances? Russias publicly stated goals (denazification, demilitarization) are sufficiently unclear to give them some flexibility should they chose so, but they keep going insane in their rhetoric, so it's impossible to know what they would find acceptable.
Russia will run out of poorly equiped mobiks far later than Ukraine runs out of freshly trained recruits supposedly trained in combined arms in NATO facilities.
Hopefully the Ukrainians will be successful, but if not, I don't know if anyone has reasonable plans for that eventuality.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 6:06 am
by Anders
Putin will die eventually, and Russia will pull out.
Ukraine did not and will not agree to Feb 2022 borders, and neither it seems will Russia.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 9:28 am
by Anders
Some reports on Ukrainian advances, but nothing confirmed.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 10:27 am
by elliseamos
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 12:14 pm
by 96583UP
a tiny grain of salt in an ocean of weaponry
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 12:16 pm
by 96583UP
simple schoolboy wrote:Ukraine has lost like what, 10 percent of the M2 Bradleys donated?
What's the game plan for a negotiated end of the conflict? Ukraine and their supporters are publicly maximalist, but is there any chance Russia will agree to Feb 2022 borders with some useless assurances? Russias publicly stated goals (denazification, demilitarization) are sufficiently unclear to give them some flexibility should they chose so, but they keep going insane in their rhetoric, so it's impossible to know what they would find acceptable.
Russia will run out of poorly equiped mobiks far later than Ukraine runs out of freshly trained recruits supposedly trained in combined arms in NATO facilities.
Hopefully the Ukrainians will be successful, but if not, I don't know if anyone has reasonable plans for that eventuality.
it’s over when China’s economy gets bad enough and they need western capital and tell russia it’s over
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 12:43 pm
by elliseamos
96583UP wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:Ukraine has lost like what, 10 percent of the M2 Bradleys donated?
What's the game plan for a negotiated end of the conflict? Ukraine and their supporters are publicly maximalist, but is there any chance Russia will agree to Feb 2022 borders with some useless assurances? Russias publicly stated goals (denazification, demilitarization) are sufficiently unclear to give them some flexibility should they chose so, but they keep going insane in their rhetoric, so it's impossible to know what they would find acceptable.
Russia will run out of poorly equiped mobiks far later than Ukraine runs out of freshly trained recruits supposedly trained in combined arms in NATO facilities.
Hopefully the Ukrainians will be successful, but if not, I don't know if anyone has reasonable plans for that eventuality.
it’s over when China’s economy gets bad enough and they need western capital and tell russia it’s over
But India has two air craft carriers to fuel!! Not sure about the planes though...
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 2:14 pm
by Anders
Melitopol might be the main target of the offensive.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 2:21 pm
by Anders
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 8:06 pm
by elliseamos
Anybody here predictively bought into the grain market?
Ukraine is F'd.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat June 10, 2023 8:29 pm
by Anders