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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 9:57 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Thejambi wrote:AllNiteThing wrote:IlluminEddie wrote:There's nothing more fanboi than "all of the sudden, getting it".
You either like a song (or album) or you don't. Sure, this can change "a bit". Certain songs may grow more favorable. But, trying to say that your opinion completely changed is a fanboi cop out.
For all those who say this about any thing PJ,.... grow a set...
....of opinion balls.
You must either be really young or completely joking here.
You're saying you've never initially disliked or were indifferent towards an album but later grew to enjoy it, or it hit you at a different point in your life/maturity? Never?
I never liked more than a couple of songs on Binaural for YEARS. I thought it was boring, muddy and just lacking. Just recently, after giving it a few more good listens with a good pair of headphones and FLAC files, it just hit me. I think it's amazing now on so many levels that would take a few paragraphs to explain. You can't tell me for a second that this has anything to do with other people's opinions influencing me or me wanting to be cool or a 'fanboy'. That's utter bullshit.
Don't worry. It's just his schtick. Logic and reasoning are cop outs.
You think it is just schtick ?
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 9:58 pm
by AllNiteThing
Thejambi wrote:AllNiteThing wrote:IlluminEddie wrote:There's nothing more fanboi than "all of the sudden, getting it".
You either like a song (or album) or you don't. Sure, this can change "a bit". Certain songs may grow more favorable. But, trying to say that your opinion completely changed is a fanboi cop out.
For all those who say this about any thing PJ,.... grow a set...
....of opinion balls.
You must either be really young or completely joking here.
You're saying you've never initially disliked or were indifferent towards an album but later grew to enjoy it, or it hit you at a different point in your life/maturity? Never?
I never liked more than a couple of songs on Binaural for YEARS. I thought it was boring, muddy and just lacking. Just recently, after giving it a few more good listens with a good pair of headphones and FLAC files, it just hit me. I think it's amazing now on so many levels that would take a few paragraphs to explain. You can't tell me for a second that this has anything to do with other people's opinions influencing me or me wanting to be cool or a 'fanboy'. That's utter bullshit.
Don't worry. It's just his schtick. Logic and reasoning are cop outs.
I keep getting sucked in to his vortex.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:01 pm
by harmless
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Thejambi wrote:AllNiteThing wrote:IlluminEddie wrote:There's nothing more fanboi than "all of the sudden, getting it".
You either like a song (or album) or you don't. Sure, this can change "a bit". Certain songs may grow more favorable. But, trying to say that your opinion completely changed is a fanboi cop out.
For all those who say this about any thing PJ,.... grow a set...
....of opinion balls.
You must either be really young or completely joking here.
You're saying you've never initially disliked or were indifferent towards an album but later grew to enjoy it, or it hit you at a different point in your life/maturity? Never?
I never liked more than a couple of songs on Binaural for YEARS. I thought it was boring, muddy and just lacking. Just recently, after giving it a few more good listens with a good pair of headphones and FLAC files, it just hit me. I think it's amazing now on so many levels that would take a few paragraphs to explain. You can't tell me for a second that this has anything to do with other people's opinions influencing me or me wanting to be cool or a 'fanboy'. That's utter bullshit.
Don't worry. It's just his schtick. Logic and reasoning are cop outs.
You think it is just schtick ?
Yup.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:02 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
harmless wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Thejambi wrote:AllNiteThing wrote:IlluminEddie wrote:There's nothing more fanboi than "all of the sudden, getting it".
You either like a song (or album) or you don't. Sure, this can change "a bit". Certain songs may grow more favorable. But, trying to say that your opinion completely changed is a fanboi cop out.
For all those who say this about any thing PJ,.... grow a set...
....of opinion balls.
You must either be really young or completely joking here.
You're saying you've never initially disliked or were indifferent towards an album but later grew to enjoy it, or it hit you at a different point in your life/maturity? Never?
I never liked more than a couple of songs on Binaural for YEARS. I thought it was boring, muddy and just lacking. Just recently, after giving it a few more good listens with a good pair of headphones and FLAC files, it just hit me. I think it's amazing now on so many levels that would take a few paragraphs to explain. You can't tell me for a second that this has anything to do with other people's opinions influencing me or me wanting to be cool or a 'fanboy'. That's utter bullshit.
Don't worry. It's just his schtick. Logic and reasoning are cop outs.
You think it is just schtick ?
Yup.
I can't decide if that makes it better or worse
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:04 pm
by epilogue
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:harmless wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Thejambi wrote:AllNiteThing wrote:IlluminEddie wrote:There's nothing more fanboi than "all of the sudden, getting it".
You either like a song (or album) or you don't. Sure, this can change "a bit". Certain songs may grow more favorable. But, trying to say that your opinion completely changed is a fanboi cop out.
For all those who say this about any thing PJ,.... grow a set...
....of opinion balls.
You must either be really young or completely joking here.
You're saying you've never initially disliked or were indifferent towards an album but later grew to enjoy it, or it hit you at a different point in your life/maturity? Never?
I never liked more than a couple of songs on Binaural for YEARS. I thought it was boring, muddy and just lacking. Just recently, after giving it a few more good listens with a good pair of headphones and FLAC files, it just hit me. I think it's amazing now on so many levels that would take a few paragraphs to explain. You can't tell me for a second that this has anything to do with other people's opinions influencing me or me wanting to be cool or a 'fanboy'. That's utter bullshit.
Don't worry. It's just his schtick. Logic and reasoning are cop outs.
You think it is just schtick ?
Yup.
I can't decide if that makes it better or worse
In the grand scheme, better. In boarding experience? Prolly worse.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:05 pm
by harmless
durdencommatyler wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:harmless wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Thejambi wrote:AllNiteThing wrote:IlluminEddie wrote:There's nothing more fanboi than "all of the sudden, getting it".
You either like a song (or album) or you don't. Sure, this can change "a bit". Certain songs may grow more favorable. But, trying to say that your opinion completely changed is a fanboi cop out.
For all those who say this about any thing PJ,.... grow a set...
....of opinion balls.
You must either be really young or completely joking here.
You're saying you've never initially disliked or were indifferent towards an album but later grew to enjoy it, or it hit you at a different point in your life/maturity? Never?
I never liked more than a couple of songs on Binaural for YEARS. I thought it was boring, muddy and just lacking. Just recently, after giving it a few more good listens with a good pair of headphones and FLAC files, it just hit me. I think it's amazing now on so many levels that would take a few paragraphs to explain. You can't tell me for a second that this has anything to do with other people's opinions influencing me or me wanting to be cool or a 'fanboy'. That's utter bullshit.
Don't worry. It's just his schtick. Logic and reasoning are cop outs.
You think it is just schtick ?
Yup.
I can't decide if that makes it better or worse
In the grand scheme, better. In boarding experience? Prolly worse.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:07 pm
by bodysnatcher
Sent the song (video) to my wife. Her comments:
bodysnatcher's wife wrote:the only thing I didn't like is there's some random piano/keyboard notes in there that I wish wasn't. not all of the piano, just these certain 3 or so notes that sound really random, they're not even similar in sound to the other keyboard/piano notes... they hit at 2:18-2:20 of the video, and the video is showing fingers playing at that moment. is that Boom's fault? Thanks yet again Boom.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:13 pm
by Jaeti
digster wrote:I have to admit, I'm not a fan of the reasoning behind "you've got to be in that type of relationship for it not to be cheesy." I think it's kind of a knock on the song if it needs to be that exclusionary to thrive.
This would make all kinds of great songs exclusionary for just tons and tons of reasons.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:14 pm
by harmless
I guess all songs *are* exclusionary for someone.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:15 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
bodysnatcher wrote:Sent the song (video) to my wife. Her comments:
bodysnatcher's wife wrote:the only thing I didn't like is there's some random piano/keyboard notes in there that I wish wasn't. not all of the piano, just these certain 3 or so notes that sound really random, they're not even similar in sound to the other keyboard/piano notes... they hit at 2:18-2:20 of the video, and the video is showing fingers playing at that moment. is that Boom's fault? Thanks yet again Boom.
That'd be BOB. They keep Boom in his cage until they tour.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:15 pm
by bodysnatcher
harmless wrote:I guess all songs *are* exclusionary for someone.
that would be a terrible person to be. being excluded from all songs in the world.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:15 pm
by Jaeti
Mike wrote:Oh, and a little anecdote. Me and my best friend are long time Pearl Jam fans and we both were equally confused about the song (He still is I think.) and we celebrated the birthday of another friend two days ago. We were sitting around drinking beer when the video was uploaded and decided to watch it. One of our non-fan friends couldn't understand why we thought the song was so irritating. He really liked it and thought it was a welcome change for the band. The girlfriend of my friend thinks it's one of Pearl Jams best songs and really likes it even though she normally dislikes most of their output.
I sent my girlfriend (who is younger and not a Pearl Jam fan) the song along with a pretty long "give it a chance, maybe a few chances" email. Today she was just like, "I liked it right away. It's pretty beautiful."
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:17 pm
by harmless
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:Sent the song (video) to my wife. Her comments:
bodysnatcher's wife wrote:the only thing I didn't like is there's some random piano/keyboard notes in there that I wish wasn't. not all of the piano, just these certain 3 or so notes that sound really random, they're not even similar in sound to the other keyboard/piano notes... they hit at 2:18-2:20 of the video, and the video is showing fingers playing at that moment. is that Boom's fault? Thanks yet again Boom.
That'd be BOB. They keep Boom in his cage until they tour.
Boom plays in the video, though, not BOB.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:18 pm
by bodysnatcher
harmless wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:Sent the song (video) to my wife. Her comments:
bodysnatcher's wife wrote:the only thing I didn't like is there's some random piano/keyboard notes in there that I wish wasn't. not all of the piano, just these certain 3 or so notes that sound really random, they're not even similar in sound to the other keyboard/piano notes... they hit at 2:18-2:20 of the video, and the video is showing fingers playing at that moment. is that Boom's fault? Thanks yet again Boom.
That'd be BOB. They keep Boom in his cage until they tour.
Boom plays in the video, though, not BOB.
Context: my wife hates Boom.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:19 pm
by epilogue
bodysnatcher wrote:harmless wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:Sent the song (video) to my wife. Her comments:
bodysnatcher's wife wrote:the only thing I didn't like is there's some random piano/keyboard notes in there that I wish wasn't. not all of the piano, just these certain 3 or so notes that sound really random, they're not even similar in sound to the other keyboard/piano notes... they hit at 2:18-2:20 of the video, and the video is showing fingers playing at that moment. is that Boom's fault? Thanks yet again Boom.
That'd be BOB. They keep Boom in his cage until they tour.
Boom plays in the video, though, not BOB.
Context: my wife hates Boom.
How does anyone hate Boom? That's like hating Clifford the Big Red Dog.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:23 pm
by harmless
durdencommatyler wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:harmless wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:Sent the song (video) to my wife. Her comments:
bodysnatcher's wife wrote:the only thing I didn't like is there's some random piano/keyboard notes in there that I wish wasn't. not all of the piano, just these certain 3 or so notes that sound really random, they're not even similar in sound to the other keyboard/piano notes... they hit at 2:18-2:20 of the video, and the video is showing fingers playing at that moment. is that Boom's fault? Thanks yet again Boom.
That'd be BOB. They keep Boom in his cage until they tour.
Boom plays in the video, though, not BOB.
Context: my wife hates Boom.
How does anyone hate Boom? That's like hating Clifford the Big Red Dog.
Yeah at this point I'm fine with Boom. I can't fathom having a producer play piano all over your records when you have a piano player already.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:27 pm
by epilogue
harmless wrote:I can't fathom having a producer play piano all over your records when you have a piano player already.
Totally agree. It makes zero sense to me. I thought people were making it up for the longest time.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:28 pm
by harmless
durdencommatyler wrote:harmless wrote:I can't fathom having a producer play piano all over your records when you have a piano player already.
Totally agree. It makes zero sense to me. I thought people were making it up for the longest time.
I guess, to be fair, he was doing it before Boom anyway. He just didn't used to do it badly.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:29 pm
by epilogue
harmless wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:harmless wrote:I can't fathom having a producer play piano all over your records when you have a piano player already.
Totally agree. It makes zero sense to me. I thought people were making it up for the longest time.
I guess, to be fair, he was doing it before Boom anyway. He just didn't used to
do it badly feature himself so prominently in the mix.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri September 20, 2013 10:29 pm
by harmless
durdencommatyler wrote:harmless wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:harmless wrote:I can't fathom having a producer play piano all over your records when you have a piano player already.
Totally agree. It makes zero sense to me. I thought people were making it up for the longest time.
I guess, to be fair, he was doing it before Boom anyway. He just didn't used to
do it badly feature himself so prominently in the mix.
