Red Mosquito

dimejinky99 wrote:

harmless wrote:Fuck tone? Tone is a massive part of what's put me off him as a drummer. Not everything, but important.

Is tone in drums where the snare sounds too right and sharp vs it being looser/relaxed?

That's part of it; every drum can be tuned up or down to sound more tight or more flabby. Matt tends to prefer his snare on the fatter side, for my taste. Just occasionally he's got it right. He's also got nice sounding toms on this album (either very high or very low/deep), and a good use of cymbals. I usually think his use of cymbals sucks; he uses all the wrong cymbals at all the wrong times, and MYM showcases a bit of that. But the other tracks don't have that issue, so I have to think he deliberately played MYM in a simplistic punky way. Or the other songs just inspired him to do more. In songs like Getaway or Swallowed Whole, there's loads of space for a drummer to play around, and he does.

harmless wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

harmless wrote:Fuck tone? Tone is a massive part of what's put me off him as a drummer. Not everything, but important.

Is tone in drums where the snare sounds too right and sharp vs it being looser/relaxed?

That's part of it; every drum can be tuned up or down to sound more tight or more flabby. Matt tends to prefer his snare on the fatter side, for my taste. Just occasionally he's got it right. He's also got nice sounding toms on this album (either very high or very low/deep), and a good use of cymbals. I usually think his use of cymbals sucks; he uses all the wrong cymbals at all the wrong times, and MYM showcases a bit of that. But the other tracks don't have that issue, so I have to think he deliberately played MYM in a simplistic punky way. Or the other songs just inspired him to do more. In songs like Getaway or Swallowed Whole, there's loads of space for a drummer to play around, and he does.

I get so hard when you don't waffle

dimejinky99 wrote:

harmless wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

harmless wrote:Fuck tone? Tone is a massive part of what's put me off him as a drummer. Not everything, but important.

Is tone in drums where the snare sounds too right and sharp vs it being looser/relaxed?

That's part of it; every drum can be tuned up or down to sound more tight or more flabby. Matt tends to prefer his snare on the fatter side, for my taste. Just occasionally he's got it right. He's also got nice sounding toms on this album (either very high or very low/deep), and a good use of cymbals. I usually think his use of cymbals sucks; he uses all the wrong cymbals at all the wrong times, and MYM showcases a bit of that. But the other tracks don't have that issue, so I have to think he deliberately played MYM in a simplistic punky way. Or the other songs just inspired him to do more. In songs like Getaway or Swallowed Whole, there's loads of space for a drummer to play around, and he does.

I get so hard when you don't waffle

You mean you want to say "Shut up and fucking kiss me" fairly often.

dimejinky99 wrote:

harmless wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

harmless wrote:Fuck tone? Tone is a massive part of what's put me off him as a drummer. Not everything, but important.

Is tone in drums where the snare sounds too right and sharp vs it being looser/relaxed?

That's part of it; every drum can be tuned up or down to sound more tight or more flabby. Matt tends to prefer his snare on the fatter side, for my taste. Just occasionally he's got it right. He's also got nice sounding toms on this album (either very high or very low/deep), and a good use of cymbals. I usually think his use of cymbals sucks; he uses all the wrong cymbals at all the wrong times, and MYM showcases a bit of that. But the other tracks don't have that issue, so I have to think he deliberately played MYM in a simplistic punky way. Or the other songs just inspired him to do more. In songs like Getaway or Swallowed Whole, there's loads of space for a drummer to play around, and he does.

I get so hard when you don't waffle

7"?

So, my love affair with LTRP turned out to just be a one-night stand. And that's okay, we had fun and I'm sure I'll call on her again when I'm drunk. Getaway and SW keep getting a bit better and LB is LB.

Dugg wrote:So, my love affair with LTRP turned out to just be a one-night stand. And that's okay, we had fun and I'm sure I'll call on her again when I'm drunk.

I'm struggling to see Getaway and MYM together. But that's because the production values are so different. MYM sounds thinner and less substantial than all four songs on the leak.

harmless wrote:I'm struggling to see Getaway and MYM together. But that's because the production values are so different. MYM sounds thinner and less substantial than all four songs on the leak.

I'm struggling to get an objective opinion about the production from the leak and MYM doesn't fit in but i presume they'll sound closer to MYM on the CD.

Mine wrote:

harmless wrote:I'm struggling to see Getaway and MYM together. But that's because the production values are so different. MYM sounds thinner and less substantial than all four songs on the leak.

I'm struggling to get an objective opinion about the production from the leak and MYM doesn't fit in but i presume they'll sound closer to MYM on the CD.

Yeah, all fair points.

particularly the vocals sound badly processed and the music sounds thin more often than not. I guess a lot of mid/mid-low frequencies are missing because of the encoding.

harmless wrote:I'm struggling to see Getaway and MYM together. But that's because the production values are so different. MYM sounds thinner and less substantial than all four songs on the leak.

I put them on a mix back-to-back and to me it makes MYM seem way overproduced. Of course, I don't like the song. They do flow together well.

Dugg wrote:

harmless wrote:I'm struggling to see Getaway and MYM together. But that's because the production values are so different. MYM sounds thinner and less substantial than all four songs on the leak.

I put them on a mix back-to-back and to me it makes MYM seem way overproduced. Of course, I don't like the song. They do flow together well.

It just all sounds tinnier. The other songs sound more "full". The scenario I'm worried about is finding that they were recorded in different sessions in different ways, so they just sound meh together. This is obviously very nitpicky because I like both songs.

harmless wrote:I'm struggling to see Getaway and MYM together. But that's because the production values are so different. MYM sounds thinner and less substantial than all four songs on the leak.

I've been thinking this, too.

Jaeti wrote:

harmless wrote:I'm struggling to see Getaway and MYM together. But that's because the production values are so different. MYM sounds thinner and less substantial than all four songs on the leak.

I've been thinking this, too.

I just had a stupid thought that the key to the album is My Father's Son...

Dugg wrote:

Jaeti wrote:

harmless wrote:I'm struggling to see Getaway and MYM together. But that's because the production values are so different. MYM sounds thinner and less substantial than all four songs on the leak.

I've been thinking this, too.

I just had a stupid thought that the key to the album is My Father's Son...

As in?

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:You guys are on drugs.

One Vitamin D3 tablet taken twice daily, and 2 Clindamycin antibiotics taken four times daily.

vitamin D is my favourite vitamin. followed by the ol classic C.

Agreed! And B makes you happy

groetjes,
Mirella

I don't care if PJ is "just a rock band" or not experimental enough for some of you. I never went to PJ to play a style of music unfamiliar to me. I went to PJ because they played music I grew up with and loved. Every album was more than satisfying to me. Most of their albums have been amongst my favorites of all time. Backspacer was their first release that I didn't love. And I did get a bit down on the band for that. But after 20 years and 9 albums and about 200 songs, how upset should I really be? Not very in my estimation.

Now we finally get new music. And after four years, people's expectations are through the roof. They have their personal vision for what PJ has to be and inevitably those expectations can never be met. I have expectations too. I expect this album to be Pearl Jam. Whatever they are now. And I expect to really love most of it. After all they are 8/9 so far in delivering albums that I really love. So the odds are pretty good.

Lastly, I could not possibly care less what anyone else thinks of PJ or this new album. If I love it, I'll love it. If I like it, then fine. If I hate it, my loss. But my opinions will be mine. No message board post from someone I don't know on the other side of the world is going to dictate my feelings for the music I hear.

So far, I think Lightning Bolt has a chance to be a wonderful album. I have already really loved three of the six new songs we've heard. I also enjoy two of the remaining three to varying degrees. This leaves me very optimistic for the songs we have yet to hear. And what is better then sitting on the verge of a new album release that we've waited years for, all the while listening to new songs that make you excited and full of anticipation? For me, not much is better.

Heathen wrote:

gems and rhinestones wrote:

harmless wrote:OK I'm ranking them (don't try and stop me):

Mind Your Manners
Swallowed Whole
Getaway
Lightning Bolt



Let The Records Play

Sirens



Lightning Bolt
Getaway
Mind Your Manners
Let The Records Play
Swallowed Whole

Doug Getaway









everything else

well yeah, but that applies to the whole catalog

Tj wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.

These are the best 4 songs we have got from this band since the Boy album

harmless wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:You guys are on drugs.

One Vitamin D3 tablet taken twice daily, and 2 Clindamycin antibiotics taken four times daily.

vitamin D is my favourite vitamin. followed by the ol classic C.

I had a blood test taken and it came back with depleted vitamin D. So more sunshine, tablets and hopefully a SAD lamp coming at some point. But yes, vitamin C and citrus. Who doesn't like that??

I can recommend the Solgar 25 μg (1000 IU). Very good, although not vegetarian.