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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 2:27 am
by wease
McParadigm wrote:So, basically, it sounds like the White House pushed the shutdown, thinking it worked in their favor. Plus it didn’t require Mitch, who wasn’t willing to go to the ropes for them on this.

Then they found out just how bad the impacts of a long term shutdown are, panicked, and are now desperately combing for an executive authority that will let them say “it’s fine if we sign this Democrat bill, because we’re getting our wall our own way.

I assume that, if that doesn’t work, the line will be “Democrats want to drag this stupid fight out until it completely destroys America, but we will take the high road for the sake of the great American worker and sign the budget bill.”
McP gets it.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 3:06 am
by bune
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 1:00 pm
by 96583UP
oh he wields real power

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 2:01 pm
by liebzz
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:So, basically, it sounds like the White House pushed the shutdown, thinking it worked in their favor. Plus it didn’t require Mitch, who wasn’t willing to go to the ropes for them on this.

Then they found out just how bad the impacts of a long term shutdown are, panicked, and are now desperately combing for an executive authority that will let them say “it’s fine if we sign this Democrat bill, because we’re getting our wall our own way.

I assume that, if that doesn’t work, the line will be “Democrats want to drag this stupid fight out until it completely destroys America, but we will take the high road for the sake of the great American worker and sign the budget bill.”
McP gets it.
It’s been two years. Regardless of your political stripes, you should be aware at this point that for Trump there is no high road. Only winning and losing.

I am also positive that if Trump tries to use a state of emergency to use military funding for a border wall after not being successful in advocating for it in the legislature that the executive branch will be sued by congress and it will go before the Supreme Court very quickly.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 4:20 pm
by epilogue
liebzz wrote:
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:So, basically, it sounds like the White House pushed the shutdown, thinking it worked in their favor. Plus it didn’t require Mitch, who wasn’t willing to go to the ropes for them on this.

Then they found out just how bad the impacts of a long term shutdown are, panicked, and are now desperately combing for an executive authority that will let them say “it’s fine if we sign this Democrat bill, because we’re getting our wall our own way.

I assume that, if that doesn’t work, the line will be “Democrats want to drag this stupid fight out until it completely destroys America, but we will take the high road for the sake of the great American worker and sign the budget bill.”
McP gets it.
It’s been two years. Regardless of your political stripes, you should be aware at this point that for Trump there is no high road. Only winning and losing.

I am also positive that if Trump tries to use a state of emergency to use military funding for a border wall after not being successful in advocating for it in the legislature that the executive branch will be sued by congress and it will go before the Supreme Court very quickly.
And they'll "find out whether or not the Kavanaugh fight was worth it."

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 4:27 pm
by dimejinky99
So..emm.. the ‘motherfucker’ lady...wow :)

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 4:46 pm
by LetMeSleep
dimejinky99 wrote:So..emm.. the ‘motherfucker’ lady...wow :)
save me searching please...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 4:50 pm
by wease
LetMeSleep wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So..emm.. the ‘motherfucker’ lady...wow :)
save me searching please...
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/op ... 5a9830a875

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 4:55 pm
by LetMeSleep
thanks. not sure the low road is the way to go.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 5:25 pm
by McParadigm
My honest thoughts: It sucks and is not helpful.

My flippant response: It’s just locker room talk.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 7:02 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Yeah not helpful, but big fucking deal. Fucking snowflakes. :roll:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 7:12 pm
by wease
A bunch of airport workers at Nashville have stopped going to work since they're not getting paid.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 9:43 pm
by McParadigm
wease wrote:A bunch of airport workers at Nashville have stopped going to work since they're not getting paid.
Security screeners are burning up sick leave all over the place, calling in rather than working without pay. That and the e-verify immigration status check powering down are a big part of what I was thinking of above.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 10:02 pm
by dimejinky99
Do government employees have to go to work in a shut down? When they’re not being paid?

Fuck that.

Never let me see the French get called surrender monkeys on here ever again.
Least they have some balls and protest.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 10:03 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Coast guard isn't getting paid right now, and no guarantee for any of these workers that they'll get back-pay once it's over

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 10:11 pm
by dimejinky99
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Coast guard isn't getting paid right now, and no guarantee for any of these workers that they'll get back-pay once it's over

Heard that on mueller she wrote the other day and I can’t believe it.

You won’t get paid for your government shutting down. But Congress will. Most everything in D.C. will.



Just go home. They’re not paying you they won’t pay you back for time worked during shutdown. Just go home.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 10:41 pm
by 96583UP
this will set up for an historic blue wave in 2020 assuming the russians don’t take us over first

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 11:13 pm
by bune
dimejinky99 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Coast guard isn't getting paid right now, and no guarantee for any of these workers that they'll get back-pay once it's over

Heard that on mueller she wrote the other day and I can’t believe it.

You won’t get paid for your government shutting down. But Congress will. Most everything in D.C. will.



Just go home. They’re not paying you they won’t pay you back for time worked during shutdown. Just go home.
Did you see the story about how the shutdown means that a raise for people in the White House will go through? All while Trump stopped a general raise for gov't workers?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 11:25 pm
by wease
bune wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Coast guard isn't getting paid right now, and no guarantee for any of these workers that they'll get back-pay once it's over

Heard that on mueller she wrote the other day and I can’t believe it.

You won’t get paid for your government shutting down. But Congress will. Most everything in D.C. will.



Just go home. They’re not paying you they won’t pay you back for time worked during shutdown. Just go home.
Did you see the story about how the shutdown means that a raise for people in the White House will go through? All while Trump stopped a general raise for gov't workers?
Sure did. They each get at least a $10K bump.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat January 05, 2019 11:25 pm
by McParadigm
durdencommatyler wrote:
liebzz wrote:
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:So, basically, it sounds like the White House pushed the shutdown, thinking it worked in their favor. Plus it didn’t require Mitch, who wasn’t willing to go to the ropes for them on this.

Then they found out just how bad the impacts of a long term shutdown are, panicked, and are now desperately combing for an executive authority that will let them say “it’s fine if we sign this Democrat bill, because we’re getting our wall our own way.

I assume that, if that doesn’t work, the line will be “Democrats want to drag this stupid fight out until it completely destroys America, but we will take the high road for the sake of the great American worker and sign the budget bill.”
McP gets it.
It’s been two years. Regardless of your political stripes, you should be aware at this point that for Trump there is no high road. Only winning and losing.

I am also positive that if Trump tries to use a state of emergency to use military funding for a border wall after not being successful in advocating for it in the legislature that the executive branch will be sued by congress and it will go before the Supreme Court very quickly.
And they'll "find out whether or not the Kavanaugh fight was worth it."
I don’t actually think the White House cares if it wins such a fight, only that it was seen taking up the attempt. It allows them to say “hey we’re fighting for you, trying to do exactly what we promised to do,” without all the hassle and consequence of building a wall.

I also don’t think that even they believe they’ll win a court battle over $5b in emergency wall funding