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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 5:59 am
by Higgs
And just quietly RP, your ongoing tirade against any criticism of the Dark Matter album pretty much pushed me fully away from PJ Chat since the album release. I find you insufferable so I went and played elsewhere.

I'm also pretty sure stip doesn't need your assistance here. He likes what he likes as we all do. You seem to get offended when people who have spent literally years posting together give each other shit for their (obviously) fully subjective tastes. What the hell is wrong with that?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 6:00 am
by Jorge
RockPusher wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
RockPusher wrote:I just call people on when they're picking on people for liking the album on a Pearl Jam forum. That offends me.
And you believe that’s happening?

And happening so frequently as to cause offence?
Yes and I'm not the only one and it has been pointed out many times by many people. Shit man, stip has taken so much stupid heat for loving two albums that so many here don't like. Love what you love, hate what you hate, but getting in other people's shit for their preferences is a bad look anywhere and particularly when it's directed at fans at a fan forum. It's Star Wars fan behavior. We should be above that.

Also, this is definitively the opposite of being opinion police. But yeah, people who's feelings get hurt for making fun of people often can't handle it and cry foul.
This is all such a bizarre reaction to Oasisfan's comment specifically.

Genuinely, how is this
oasisfan wrote:If one has to work to enjoy an album, who's doing it wrong?
doing any of this?
RockPusher wrote:getting in other people's shit for their preferences
RockPusher wrote: picking on people for liking the album
RockPusher wrote: make fun of fans for being really into songs or the band
RockPusher wrote: literally trying to rain on everyone who enjoys the album's parade
Talk about getting defensive and not being able to handle things, sheesh

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 6:06 am
by LetMeSleep
Higgs wrote:And just quietly RP, your ongoing tirade against any criticism of the Dark Matter album pretty much pushed me fully away from PJ Chat since the album release. I find you insufferable so I went and played elsewhere.

I'm also pretty sure stip doesn't need your assistance here. He likes what he likes as we all do. You seem to get offended when people who have spent literally years posting together give each other shit for their (obviously) fully subjective tastes. What the hell is wrong with that?
back and forth, a wave will break on me today
And love,... Wish the world could go again with love

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 6:11 am
by Higgs
LetMeSleep wrote:
Higgs wrote:And just quietly RP, your ongoing tirade against any criticism of the Dark Matter album pretty much pushed me fully away from PJ Chat since the album release. I find you insufferable so I went and played elsewhere.

I'm also pretty sure stip doesn't need your assistance here. He likes what he likes as we all do. You seem to get offended when people who have spent literally years posting together give each other shit for their (obviously) fully subjective tastes. What the hell is wrong with that?
back and forth, a wave will break on me today
And love,... Wish the world could go again with love
Are you quoting fucking Parachutes at me????? You absolute wanker! Aaargh!!!

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 6:14 am
by LetMeSleep
Yes. I am. Job done.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 6:18 am
by Higgs
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 10:00 am
by VinylGuy
Look at all these mighty Rmers jumping on on RockPusher!! I will defend my pj fella right away

I can’t defend Stip for liking LB though. That’s atrocious.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 10:02 am
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:Allow me to clear the air a bit:

1. I’ll entirely apologize and take back any criticism I put to Wotman, at least as it relates to the audio quality of the tracks. Everything I hate about the album lies entirely with Ghanea.

2. The stems are good, but they’re weird in that they’re Atmos stems — bass tracks are commingled with vocal track and drum tracks; drum room tones are commingled with guitar tracks; guitar solos are commingled with stereo reverb tracks. This limits what I can do.

3. It’s not that I’m “taking my time” to make them perfect. It’s just that I can’t really prioritize this project over other stuff in my life. It’ll get done when it’s done, and I won’t circulate until I’m confident it’s about the best I can personally make it. My best ETA is another month.

Genuinely appreciate your interest, and the more recent conversations around compression and hearing loss and whatnot!

I guess the RM podcast mix is first than this right?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 10:50 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 12:49 pm
by Ello Sailor
VinylGuy wrote:I can’t defend Stip for liking LB though. That’s atrocious.
For real. Fuck that guy.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 6:01 pm
by McParadigm
Listening to this as we drive through Arizona today. Man, what a record.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 7:00 pm
by McParadigm
I think the way they play with tension and release here is so effective, and so much more organic (less calculated) than it has been.

Like, tension isn’t a word I would use to describe Won’t Tell, but when that bridge comes in (“I’d open the door, I’d let you in”) it feels like something has been holding on to you and it just suddenly released its grip. It’s like a rubber band snapping.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 7:34 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 7:36 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 7:51 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 8:53 pm
by warehouse
McParadigm wrote:I think the way they play with tension and release here is so effective, and so much more organic (less calculated) than it has been.

Like, tension isn’t a word I would use to describe Won’t Tell, but when that bridge comes in (“I’d open the door, I’d let you in”) it feels like something has been holding on to you and it just suddenly released its grip. It’s like a rubber band snapping.
i remember hearing stone specifically use the term "tension and release"

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 10:25 pm
by Hypnos
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I think the way they play with tension and release here is so effective, and so much more organic (less calculated) than it has been.

Like, tension isn’t a word I would use to describe Won’t Tell, but when that bridge comes in (“I’d open the door, I’d let you in”) it feels like something has been holding on to you and it just suddenly released its grip. It’s like a rubber band snapping.
imagine it with dynamics
Nice job but what happened to the guitar do do do do at the end? :(

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 10:47 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 11:04 pm
by Jorge
You must record new do do dos yourself

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri June 21, 2024 12:29 am
by Strat
I'll retract the guitars for you trag. I've got this