Red Mosquito

BurtReynolds wrote:Russia! Russia! Russia!

Just stop.

Seriously

Partisan politics aside, that attitude is staggering to me. I'll just never understand it.

Is this the lemming argument? I don't care what anyone thinks. I understand how many people in this world are morons.

durdencommatyler wrote:Partisan politics aside, that attitude is staggering to me. I'll just never understand it.

And FWIW, that study regarding Russia was done on behalf of the Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute.

They must be deep state apparently!!

Is the implication that people's votes should count less if they live near other people?

It's equally ludicrous to suggest that a smaller number of people who inhabit a far larger space should dictate the outcome of a national election.

That said, Tennessee should not dictate how Californians live, and California should not dictate how Tennesseans live, so the answer is more regional autonomy and weaker federal government (which will never happen because most people are wannabe tyrants who think they know what's best for everyone.)

You're not one of those idiots who thinks Russia is our friend are you Josh?

verb_to_trust wrote:You're not one of those idiots who thinks Russia is our friend are you Josh?

Why would they be our friend? We've been encroaching on them for decades.

Captain Termite wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Partisan politics aside, that attitude is staggering to me. I'll just never understand it.

And FWIW, that study regarding Russia was done on behalf of the Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute.

They must be deep state apparently!!

They are.

Captain Termite wrote:Is the implication that people's votes should count less if they live near other people?

The implication is that a few tiny pockets of dense population should not be able to impose their will over massive amounts of land and tens of millions of people spread over an entire country. The electoral college was invented to ensure even the “forgotten little people” outside of the powerful cities have an equal say in Presidential elections.

PHATJ wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:Is the implication that people's votes should count less if they live near other people?

The implication is that a few tiny pockets of dense population should not be able to impose their will over massive amounts of land and tens of millions of people spread over an entire country. The electoral college was invented to ensure even the “forgotten little people” outside of the powerful cities have an equal say in Presidential elections.

Should the opposite be true though?

Captain Termite wrote:Is the implication that people's votes should count less if they live near other people?

I mean

verb_to_trust wrote:You're not one of those idiots who thinks Russia is our friend are you Josh?

Where the hell do you get that? I’ve never said anything positive about Russia. Are you one of these idiots that thinks anyone that supports the president is a Russian sympathizer?

PHATJ wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:You're not one of those idiots who thinks Russia is our friend are you Josh?

Where the hell do you get that? I’ve never said anything positive about Russia. Are you one of these idiots that thinks anyone that supports the president is a Russian sympathizer?

So you just unwittingly support Russian disinformation, it's not overt?

PHATJ wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:Is the implication that people's votes should count less if they live near other people?

The implication is that a few tiny pockets of dense population should not be able to impose their will over massive amounts of land and tens of millions of people spread over an entire country. The electoral college was invented to ensure even the “forgotten little people” outside of the powerful cities have an equal say in Presidential elections.

The 50 states that we know today were created haphazardly.

The median states in area, Illinois/Iowa, are one tenth the size of Alaska. If we broke up Alaska into ten states, giving them 18 extra senators and 27 extra Electoral College votes, is that fair?

WHEN DID YOU STOP BEATING YOUR WIFE

Green Habit wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:Is the implication that people's votes should count less if they live near other people?

The implication is that a few tiny pockets of dense population should not be able to impose their will over massive amounts of land and tens of millions of people spread over an entire country. The electoral college was invented to ensure even the “forgotten little people” outside of the powerful cities have an equal say in Presidential elections.

The 50 states that we know today were created haphazardly.

The median states in area, Illinois/Iowa, are one tenth the size of Alaska. If we broke up Alaska into ten states, giving them 18 extra senators and 27 extra Electoral College votes, is that fair?

Only if we get more Nailin Palin porn out of the deal.

Green Habit wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:Is the implication that people's votes should count less if they live near other people?

The implication is that a few tiny pockets of dense population should not be able to impose their will over massive amounts of land and tens of millions of people spread over an entire country. The electoral college was invented to ensure even the “forgotten little people” outside of the powerful cities have an equal say in Presidential elections.

The 50 states that we know today were created haphazardly.

The median states in area, Illinois/Iowa, are one tenth the size of Alaska. If we broke up Alaska into ten states, giving them 18 extra senators and 27 extra Electoral College votes, is that fair?

That’s a hypothetical situation that isn’t in any way a possibility or reality. So who gives a shit?

PHATJ wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:Is the implication that people's votes should count less if they live near other people?

The implication is that a few tiny pockets of dense population should not be able to impose their will over massive amounts of land and tens of millions of people spread over an entire country. The electoral college was invented to ensure even the “forgotten little people” outside of the powerful cities have an equal say in Presidential elections.

I don't think you have the mechanics of it right, or you're mixing things up with the rationale for the structure of the senate.

For example, New York State gets lots of electoral votes because of its dense population centers, and all the rural voters put together can't outvote the NYC metro area so it seems like those "forgotten little people" in small-town New York get less of a say because of the electoral college.