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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:40 pm
by 4/5
Simple Torture wrote:
4/5 wrote:Wait, what happened to the prosecutor lady?
Graham asked his own questions/made his own statement, and I believe since then no one has referenced her (following on Twitter/blogs, fwiw).
Yeah, I am too now. That’s what I gather. I saw her begin asking him questions a couple hours ago. I guess they didn’t like what she was asking him...

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:41 pm
by verb_to_trust
Just so everyone knows, polygraphs are useless

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:42 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:42 pm
by Strat
So...

The republicans have spent all this time basically just screaming and calling conspiracy while also trying to figure out who why and where the letter leaked from? Do they actually have any defense of or from BK?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:44 pm
by Strat
The republicans are so much fucking better at making more noise. And it works.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:45 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:Kamala Harris ftw
and yes, zing!

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:47 pm
by verb_to_trust
Flakes female staffer is sexy

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:48 pm
by verb_to_trust
Kennedy is wasting his time with the ol' "look me in the eye" questions.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:48 pm
by Strat
Do you believe in god?

Oh my god. Of course this. Fuck religion.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:49 pm
by Strat
verb_to_trust wrote:Kennedy is wasting his time with the ol' "look me in the eye" questions.
NO he's not. Unfortunately...

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 10:53 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 11:01 pm
by swan
we're fucked

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 11:05 pm
by McParadigm
McParadigm wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:not able to watch today, grabbing headlines here and there. would love a review when it's done, also McP's take on GOP response/fallout if he's up for it
This is assuming Kavanaugh’s testimony doesn’t shock me with its effectiveness:

I still think that it’s most probable that they take him to a vote and he doesn’t make it. I’d be less surprised now if they withdrew him, but still surprised. Their base would be furious. Also this way the president can tell voters that the senate was the problem...it wasn’t his loss. It’s not impossible that they drop him, depending on his half of this hearing, but that would be a happy surprise to me. They’d have to recognize that the cost of the vote outweighs the benefit, and we just haven’t seen any evidence of that. They probably believe that he’s done, and want that vote done ASAP so they can move on to someone else.

They’ll trot out some weak, carefully selected credibility attacks. “Oh, she’s scared of flying, but gets on planes! Unheard of!” These aren’t actually an attempt to provide any vote cover...they’re a fanning of partisan flames. They’ll want the base mad, energized, and feeling unduly robbed.

I also think that today will cause them yet more heartache in the midterms, although how they maneuver the confirmation vote and loss will decide the severity. If they place him on the court after this, a lot of races will be in play that were not before.
Well, he surprised me. He went full Trump, grabbed the base by the balls, and made it a probable career ender for any Republican to vote no.

Unless something changes, I’d say his odds just shot way up.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 11:06 pm
by washing machine
Do you all remember how confident you were a few hours (pages) ago?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 11:09 pm
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:not able to watch today, grabbing headlines here and there. would love a review when it's done, also McP's take on GOP response/fallout if he's up for it
This is assuming Kavanaugh’s testimony doesn’t shock me with its effectiveness:

I still think that it’s most probable that they take him to a vote and he doesn’t make it. I’d be less surprised now if they withdrew him, but still surprised. Their base would be furious. Also this way the president can tell voters that the senate was the problem...it wasn’t his loss. It’s not impossible that they drop him, depending on his half of this hearing, but that would be a happy surprise to me. They’d have to recognize that the cost of the vote outweighs the benefit, and we just haven’t seen any evidence of that. They probably believe that he’s done, and want that vote done ASAP so they can move on to someone else.

They’ll trot out some weak, carefully selected credibility attacks. “Oh, she’s scared of flying, but gets on planes! Unheard of!” These aren’t actually an attempt to provide any vote cover...they’re a fanning of partisan flames. They’ll want the base mad, energized, and feeling unduly robbed.

I also think that today will cause them yet more heartache in the midterms, although how they maneuver the confirmation vote and loss will decide the severity. If they place him on the court after this, a lot of races will be in play that were not before.
Well, he surprised me. He went full Trump, grabbed the base by the balls, and made it a probable career ender for any Republican to vote no.

Unless something changes, I’d say his odds just shot way up.
Ill be shocked if Murkowski and Collins vote for him after that performance....i dont know.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 11:10 pm
by The Argonaut
I watched or listened to all of Blasey Ford's testimony, but I couldn't watch Kavanaugh live. This thread has me excited to catch up with it

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 11:10 pm
by McParadigm
I don’t see that he did anything to blunt the consequential cost in the polls though. His demeanor and argument were counterproductive to saving the already-hemorrhaging Republican female vote. They’ll be surprised by how much hurt it produces.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 11:12 pm
by McParadigm
washing machine wrote:Do you all remember how confident you were a few hours (pages) ago?
You mean in the post I just replied to? I stand by it word for word. Especially the first sentence.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 11:17 pm
by Simple Torture
Jumping on the McP whiskey-drinking wagon: I am also pretty sure he will be confirmed. The GOP caucus meets, agrees to let Collins vote "no" to help he re-election chances, and Pence breaks the tie.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 11:18 pm
by Simple Torture
Simple Torture wrote:Jumping on the McP whiskey-drinking wagon: I am also pretty sure he will be confirmed. The GOP caucus meets, agrees to let Collins vote "no" to help he re-election chances, and Pence breaks the tie.
Edit my language: they tell Collins they would prefer if she votes "no." They need her votes for tax cuts and the like.