Red Mosquito

New York Daily News's Shaun King (jeez, diggum, get it right):

I hope it's extra nasty.

Orpheus wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Steve Bannon wrote:"The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for awhile,"
"I want you to quote this, the media here is the opposition party. They don't understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States."

This was said by him on Wednesday...

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I mean...he's kinda right, though.

He really is.

He's right about the media keeping it's mouth shut?

Come on now.

As I've seen it put, the same media who told you that Trump couldn't win are now lining up to tell you what happens next - same media who confidently predicted Brexit would never win, etc.

Orpheus wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Steve Bannon wrote:"The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for awhile,"
"I want you to quote this, the media here is the opposition party. They don't understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States."

This was said by him on Wednesday...

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I mean...he's kinda right, though.

He really is.

He's right about the media keeping it's mouth shut?

He's right about the media being the opposition party. And he's right that they should be humiliated for helping get Trump elected. And they should be embarrassed about how wrong they were.

McParadigm wrote:

On this: That said:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Steve Bannon wrote:"The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for awhile,"
"I want you to quote this, the media here is the opposition party. They don't understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States."

This was said by him on Wednesday...

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I mean...he's kinda right, though.

He really is.

He's right about the media keeping it's mouth shut?

He's right about the media being the opposition party. And he's right that they should be humiliated for helping get Trump elected. And they should be embarrassed about how wrong they were.

I agree with everything except that there is any shame in the failure to predict an outcome where unknown actors and thoroughly unparalleled circumstances are involved. Prediction in news is not like weather forecasting, and the only thing they should regret is falling into the clickbait game of acting like it is.

McParadigm wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Steve Bannon wrote:"The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for awhile,"
"I want you to quote this, the media here is the opposition party. They don't understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States."

This was said by him on Wednesday...

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I mean...he's kinda right, though.

He really is.

He's right about the media keeping it's mouth shut?

He's right about the media being the opposition party. And he's right that they should be humiliated for helping get Trump elected. And they should be embarrassed about how wrong they were.

I agree with everything except that there is any shame in the failure to predict an outcome where unknown actors and thoroughly unparalleled circumstances are involved. Prediction in news is not like weather forecasting, and the only thing they should regret is falling into the clickbait game of acting like it is.

Yeah, I added that last line in an edit, and I immediately regretted it.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:He's right about the media being the opposition party. And he's right that they should be humiliated for helping get Trump elected. And they should be embarrassed about how wrong they were.

I only really have an issue with the second point, which they absolutely did do in horrible fashion. But everybody was wrong, mostly because they couldn't imagine people actually voting for someone that unqualified, and I think based on their complicity beforehand and based on what we've seen in the first week, they have a duty to be the opposition party now. They're actually speaking for the majority by doing that at this point.

Birds in Hell wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

On this:

That said:

It's possible, and I think everyone is unclear as to how the order plays out. That tweet thread is littered with journos trying to get details.

Orpheus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:He's right about the media being the opposition party. And he's right that they should be humiliated for helping get Trump elected. And they should be embarrassed about how wrong they were.

I only really have an issue with the second point, which they absolutely did do in horrible fashion. But everybody was wrong, mostly because they couldn't imagine people actually voting for someone that unqualified, and I think based on their complicity beforehand and based on what we've seen in the first week, they have a duty to be the opposition party now. They're actually speaking for the majority by doing that at this point.

But they were always the opposition party, which is part of the reason he won. We need to come up with some new strategy. A liberal media bashing Trump over and over for four years is gonna put us right back where we started.

pepperwhiteMFC wrote:

Shouldnt it read "media...and also the daily mail?"

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:He's right about the media being the opposition party. And he's right that they should be humiliated for helping get Trump elected. And they should be embarrassed about how wrong they were.

I only really have an issue with the second point, which they absolutely did do in horrible fashion. But everybody was wrong, mostly because they couldn't imagine people actually voting for someone that unqualified, and I think based on their complicity beforehand and based on what we've seen in the first week, they have a duty to be the opposition party now. They're actually speaking for the majority by doing that at this point.

But they were always the opposition party, which is part of the reason he won. We need to come up with some new strategy. A liberal media bashing Trump over and over for four years is gonna put us right back where we started.

Calling him out on his lies shouldnt be considered "bashing". What is the media supposed to do?

start spilling the blood of fascist scum

Liberals: God, you are dumb
Rural Voters: Ill show you dumb and ill vote the dumbest one in office derp de derp!


whatever. Its going to be a fun four years. Lets go with it.

The next four years will be anything but fun

McParadigm wrote:

pepperwhiteMFC wrote:

Shouldnt it read "media...and also the daily mail?"

The Whigs aren't using the power of positive thinking in this example.

What are they supposed to say about the horrible things he's doing? Are we supposed to go along with this shit because we might offend his base? His base is not the majority and from what I can tell he's losing support every day.

I'm just getting tired at this idea that we should be more offended by the reaction to things like racism and inequality than the actual racism and inequality that is happening. I refuse to cater to the most base and vile actors in our society and I don't think the media should either.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:start spilling the blood of fascist scum

You can start by punching the alt-right (Nazis) in the face.