Red Mosquito

stip wrote:this kind of side 2 rocker has been with them from jump

Porch - track 8/11
Blood - track 7/12
Satan’s Bed - track 10/14
Habit - track 7 /13 or Lukin - track 9/13
MFC - track 9/13
Grievance - track 9/13
Get Right - track 9/15 or Green Disease - track 10/15
Big Wave - track 8/13
Supersonic - track 8/11
Swallowed Whole - track 8/12 or Let the Records Play - track 9/12
Never Destination - track 7/12 or Take the Long Way - track 8/12

it’s a well worn formula. Though Get Right, Big Wave, and Supersonic (maybe LTRP or Take the Long Way) are the only ones kind of structured to be light/disposable. The rest, even if they are light, are songs making statements

stip wrote:i like the majority of these songs (supersonic and big wave the exceptions but mike’s playing at the end is awesome at least). but porch and grievance are the only ones that feel important. even blood and satan’s bed feel like minor songs on major albums

RockPusher wrote:Habit is my favorite of those tracks. I know a lot of you would be happy with a Lukin, STBC or Whipping analog, but those tracks always felt repetitive to me without much room for musical exploration. Blood is special because it brings the funk. Habit is special because it brings such ferocious guitars for the solo (kind of like Dark Matter in that regard). I have no idea what a sub-3 minute heavy song from PJ will sound like these days, but I’m hopeful it will have some real energy.

RockPusher wrote:

stip wrote:i like the majority of these songs (supersonic and big wave the exceptions but mike’s playing at the end is awesome at least). but porch and grievance are the only ones that feel important. even blood and satan’s bed feel like minor songs on major albums

Knowing how much you love Lightning Bolt, how do you feel about Swallowed Whole? I truly wish we could have heard a version of that done with a different producer, because this REMish sound could really go places.

stip wrote:

RockPusher wrote:

stip wrote:i like the majority of these songs (supersonic and big wave the exceptions but mike’s playing at the end is awesome at least). but porch and grievance are the only ones that feel important. even blood and satan’s bed feel like minor songs on major albums

Knowing how much you love Lightning Bolt, how do you feel about Swallowed Whole? I truly wish we could have heard a version of that done with a different producer, because this REMish sound could really go places.

Same. I think the bones of an incredible song are there, and there are parts that work really well for me (the quieter parts, the gentle bridge, and the outro). It suffers from Lightning Bolts antiseptic production which makes the song feel chained down when it needs to have a wide open sound, and it suffers from the challenge that faces most of the mid tempo anthems on Backspacer and Lightning Bolt - they don't feel expansive and limitless in the way that the best pearl jam stuff does, and doesn't draw the necessary contrast with the setup in the verses. Unthought Known, Amongst the Waves, Sirens, and Infallible all have the same issue.

tragabigzanda wrote:I actually think the rock songs on Backspacer sound pretty good, for being fairly polished

stip wrote:I think what BoB did on the faster songs on Lightning Bolt sound pretty good. Better than Lightning Bolt, certainly, though I think that's a stronger set of songs.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I actually think the rock songs on Backspacer sound pretty good, for being fairly polished

me too

I agree with your takes like 50% of the time and the other half I just don’t get you at all

stip wrote:this kind of side 2 rocker has been with them from jump

Porch - track 8/11
Blood - track 7/12
Satan’s Bed - track 10/14
Habit - track 7 /13 or Lukin - track 9/13
MFC - track 9/13
Grievance - track 9/13
Get Right - track 9/15 or Green Disease - track 10/15
Big Wave - track 8/13
Supersonic - track 8/11
Swallowed Whole - track 8/12 or Let the Records Play - track 9/12
Never Destination - track 7/12 or Take the Long Way - track 8/12

it’s a well worn formula. Though Get Right, Big Wave, and Supersonic (maybe LTRP or Take the Long Way) are the only ones kind of structured to be light/disposable. The rest, even if they are light, are songs making statements

Jorge wrote:

stip wrote:I think what BoB did on the faster songs on Lightning Bolt sound pretty good. Better than Lightning Bolt, certainly, though I think that's a stronger set of songs.

What