Red Mosquito

PHATJ wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:I cannot take your list seriously, but only because Big Empty isn't on it (WTF?!), Wicked a garden IS on it, and that dumb Suit song you put as honorable mention.

... wait, you don't have Creep OR Crackerman?! Jeez, dude!

Lol. Big Empty would probably be there if I made the list again today. Creep and Crackerman aren’t close to my top 20.

Really???

Crackerman was my first favorite STP song. It fucking rocks, and so does D&B, which was my backup for Crackerman in the tourney. WG has just grown tiresome for some reason. Creep is just a very well-crafted piece of songwriting, so I couldn't pass that one up when it was up for grabs.

I feel the same way about Crackerman as you do about WG, and I haven’t loved Creep since I was 15. It’s in the same category as Radiohead’s Creep; Iconic songs that haven’t done anything for me since I became an adult.

Seems like many here have 'outgrown' Core, and I guess I haven't yet. Those songs mostly held up quite well when I spun the album a few days ago.

I don’t dislike Core. Plush is still one of my favorites. There are a couple others I really enjoy. I just think the STP of Purple/Shangri-La/Tiny Music is much more interesting and overall much more creative and just ... better.

Ok... I'll concede Purple as easily the best of all, but Core will always be my second or third favorite STP album. I don't hold Tiny Music in as high regard as most... when I ranked the songs on there, only four songs really did anything for me. Otherwise, BBB drives me insane, and is as big a classic rock rip-off of the Rolling Stones as Given to Fly is to Led Zeppelin. Shangri La... 'I just need to spend more time with it' has been my excuse for far too long, but nothing on that one really stands out to me. I don't even really count that last divebomb of an album... I'd rather listen to Chester.

It was only a couple of years ago that I really gave Shangri-La a legitimate chance. I’m so glad I finally did. I love that album. It rivals Purple as my STP favorite. I mostly agree with you about Tiny Music being uneven, but I love about half the album.

I also thought Shangri-La sucked for years, mainly because i didnt connected with the main single. Boy, i was so stupid.

VinylGuy wrote:I also thought Shangri-La sucked for years, mainly because i didnt connected with the main single. Boy, i was so stupid.

Yep. That’s the only dumb song on the album.

Here's the setlist from when I saw them in ‘97:

Crackerman
Meatplow
Tumble in the Rough
Vasolene
Silvergun Superman
Wicked Garden
Daisy
Dancing Days
Creep
Pretty Penny
Seven Caged Tigers
Trippin’ on a Hole in a Paper Heart
Plush
Big Empty
Interstate Love Song
Lounge Fly
Unglued
Big Bang Baby
Dead and Bloated
Sex Type Thing

Shangri-LA still sucks

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Shangri-LA still sucks

Do you at least like Regeneration?

No. Isn’t that the one with that horrendous rap-y section? Yuck.

Iholdthepain wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:I cannot take your list seriously, but only because Big Empty isn't on it (WTF?!), Wicked a garden IS on it, and that dumb Suit song you put as honorable mention.

... wait, you don't have Creep OR Crackerman?! Jeez, dude!

Lol. Big Empty would probably be there if I made the list again today. Creep and Crackerman aren’t close to my top 20.

Really???

Crackerman was my first favorite STP song. It fucking rocks, and so does D&B, which was my backup for Crackerman in the tourney. WG has just grown tiresome for some reason. Creep is just a very well-crafted piece of songwriting, so I couldn't pass that one up when it was up for grabs.

I feel the same way about Crackerman as you do about WG, and I haven’t loved Creep since I was 15. It’s in the same category as Radiohead’s Creep; Iconic songs that haven’t done anything for me since I became an adult.

Seems like many here have 'outgrown' Core, and I guess I haven't yet. Those songs mostly held up quite well when I spun the album a few days ago.

I don’t dislike Core. Plush is still one of my favorites. There are a couple others I really enjoy. I just think the STP of Purple/Shangri-La/Tiny Music is much more interesting and overall much more creative and just ... better.

Ok... I'll concede Purple as easily the best of all, but Core will always be my second or third favorite STP album. I don't hold Tiny Music in as high regard as most... when I ranked the songs on there, only four songs really did anything for me. Otherwise, BBB drives me insane, and is as big a classic rock rip-off of the Rolling Stones as Given to Fly is to Led Zeppelin. Shangri La... 'I just need to spend more time with it' has been my excuse for far too long, but nothing on that one really stands out to me. I don't even really count that last divebomb of an album... I'd rather listen to Chester.

I loved Tiny Music to death when it came but I don't think it has aged well.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Shangri-LA still sucks

You are bad at opinions. You should get that looked at by a specialist.

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Shangri-LA still sucks

Do you at least like Regeneration?

No. Isn’t that the one with that horrendous rap-y section? Yuck.

No Way Out is more rappy than this I think

Uhhhh there is no rap in NWO

.....no

Is Stone Temple Pilots nu metal?

I mean in 2001 they toured with Linkin Park, Static-X, Staind and Puddle of Mudd.

I'd say it's more tribal chanting in Regenration...but it is pretty goofy. RHCP could pull it off but not STP.

people are finally coming around to my position on No.4

granted it’s trag and jammer, but still

bart wrote:granted it’s trag and jammer, but still

I was referencing our classic “is it nu metal?” topic from a few years ago.