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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 6:23 pm
by bart
You realize the article is basically about the campaign trying (and failing) to do what like half a dozen RMers do every time there's a poll on this site, right? On two online opinion polls. What are you amazed by in that article?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 6:25 pm
by bart
It's almost like, oh I dunno, people are only reading the (clickbait, sensationalist) headlines of these articles or something...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 6:37 pm
by bune
You mean we're falling into the same trap that elected Trump in the first place? Oh no...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 6:40 pm
by washing machine
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 7:02 pm
by McParadigm
bart wrote:You realize the article is basically about the campaign trying (and failing) to do what like half a dozen RMers do every time there's a poll on this site, right? On two online opinion polls. What are you amazed by in that article?
“Interesting” and “OMG IT’S THE SMOKING GUN” are very different reactions.

An example of why it’s interesting to me is that it focused on misrepresenting Trump’s popularity relative to other GOP candidates (that’s not quite the interesting part), and so the fallout and the sense of being taken in lands on a very different set of shoulders, politically:

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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 7:31 pm
by doug rr
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 8:20 pm
by verb_to_trust
Trump has Clapped Back with a your plans are cancelled letter of his own. Was Pelosi really planning to travel abroad? I'm kind of pissed at her for not cancelling her plans and leaving herself wide open for this counter move by orange douche if so.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 8:29 pm
by bart
Yeah now is not the time for the usual congressional Afghanistan boondoggle

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 8:44 pm
by McParadigm
verb_to_trust wrote:Trump has Clapped Back with a your plans are cancelled letter of his own. Was Pelosi really planning to travel abroad? I'm kind of pissed at her for not cancelling her plans and leaving herself wide open for this counter move by orange douche if so.
Troop visit with a NATO stop in Brussels.

It’s a pretty unaccomplished counter move, though (as evidenced by Trump apologist Graham calling it the folly it is). It’s the sort of “I know you are but what am I” move that speaks to Trump’s ego, but runs counter to his goals.

Also, given the massive power the House has to allocate funds for White House programs (or to not), flexing White House purse power is super, super weak.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 11:31 pm
by McParadigm
lol. The juxtaposition between canceling Nancy’s troop visit and still traveling to Davos immediately led him to another concession. So much winning.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 11:55 pm
by McParadigm
“Being so determined to attack your sworn enemy that you blow up your own ship to do it” is a strategy usually left to Starscream.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 17, 2019 11:59 pm
by LetMeSleep
McParadigm wrote:“Being so determined to attack your sworn enemy that you blow up your own ship to do it” is a strategy usually left to Starscream.
see Brexit thread.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri January 18, 2019 12:00 am
by bune

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri January 18, 2019 12:25 am
by McParadigm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri January 18, 2019 12:31 am
by Norah
McParadigm wrote:“Being so determined to attack your sworn enemy that you blow up your own ship to do it” is a strategy usually left to Starscream.
hoisted by his own retard

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri January 18, 2019 12:42 am
by Simple Torture
cutuphalfdead wrote:
McParadigm wrote:“Being so determined to attack your sworn enemy that you blow up your own ship to do it” is a strategy usually left to Starscream.
hoisted by his own retard
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri January 18, 2019 12:43 am
by McParadigm
Simple Torture wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
McParadigm wrote:“Being so determined to attack your sworn enemy that you blow up your own ship to do it” is a strategy usually left to Starscream.
hoisted by his own retard
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“Here’s a hint.”

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri January 18, 2019 12:44 am
by Simple Torture
McParadigm wrote:
538's approval average is now below 40%

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri January 18, 2019 12:45 am
by McParadigm
Oh also the Davos trip was supposed to be Mnuchin’s excuse to not brief Ways and Means on the economic consequences of the shutdown

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri January 18, 2019 12:51 am
by Simple Torture
I believe Trump's polling nadir was sometime in December 2017. I have no idea what drove it so low, although it was around the time Flynn was indicted.