Red Mosquito

Simple Torture wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Honestly, in the books I don't think we're ever getting Benjen back, and I think that's how I want it.

Me too. I'm on the record that I'd rather have no more returns/secret identities. The people that think Daario is Benjen are the most insufferable people in the world.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Wait, there's a Daario is Benjen theory?

Mecca wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Honestly, in the books I don't think we're ever getting Benjen back, and I think that's how I want it.

Me too. I'm on the record that I'd rather have no more returns/secret identities. The people that think Daario is Benjen are the most insufferable people in the world.

pretty sure most of them say it facetiously

Simple Torture wrote:

Mecca wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Honestly, in the books I don't think we're ever getting Benjen back, and I think that's how I want it.

Me too. I'm on the record that I'd rather have no more returns/secret identities. The people that think Daario is Benjen are the most insufferable people in the world.

pretty sure most of them say it facetiously

See: the link I posted in response to chud.

Zantac Junkie wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:-Coldhands (who I thought was all but cut from the series--but with Bran and Meera heading out into the snow, this might be back on the menu)

There's a shot from one of the trailers of a hooded figure on horseback hitting a wight with a flaming torch,so it certainly fits.

Although, the more I think about it, the more I think that the show will make it Benjen who saves them.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. But isn't it pretty well regarded among readers that Benjen IS Coldhands? I thought it was the most popular and legitimate theory since L+R=J.

Nah, they killed him long ago, according to the CotF. And by their reckoning nothing that happened in recent memory would be "long ago".

Spoiler: show

Martin also confirmed it, in a response to his editor. http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/grrm-jus ... ge_article

Personally, I think Coldhands is likely one of the Raven's Teeth, Bloodraven's personal guard who accompanied him to the wall.

I trust you guys way more than I trust a Vulture article that sites a fucking reddit user.

Absurd.

I'll listen to you guys, but I'm calling bullshit on that "confirmation."

Normally I'd agree with you, but the original reddit post is pretty comprehensive, with lots of photos of George's notes on the manuscript. So, unless it's been debunked and I never heard about it, I'd say it's accurate.

Again, I trust you right now. And I believe you. I will not believe anyone on reddit.

Fair enough.

I'm just being petulant. I hadn't seen that story though and it kinda bums me out. It was my favorite of the fan theories.

Well, regardless of what George does, I'm fairly certain that the show is going to bring Benjen back next week to escort Bran and Meera back to the wall. Which would kind of make him Coldhands by proxy.

spike wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:-Coldhands (who I thought was all but cut from the series--but with Bran and Meera heading out into the snow, this might be back on the menu)

There's a shot from one of the trailers of a hooded figure on horseback hitting a wight with a flaming torch,so it certainly fits.

Although, the more I think about it, the more I think that the show will make it Benjen who saves them.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. But isn't it pretty well regarded among readers that Benjen IS Coldhands? I thought it was the most popular and legitimate theory since L+R=J.

Nah, they killed him long ago, according to the CotF. And by their reckoning nothing that happened in recent memory would be "long ago".

Spoiler: show

Martin also confirmed it, in a response to his editor. http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/grrm-jus ... ge_article

Personally, I think Coldhands is likely one of the Raven's Teeth, Bloodraven's personal guard who accompanied him to the wall.

I trust you guys way more than I trust a Vulture article that sites a fucking reddit user.

Absurd.

I'll listen to you guys, but I'm calling bullshit on that "confirmation."

Normally I'd agree with you, but the original reddit post is pretty comprehensive, with lots of photos of George's notes on the manuscript. So, unless it's been debunked and I never heard about it, I'd say it's accurate.

Again, I trust you right now. And I believe you. I will not believe anyone on reddit.

Fair enough.

I'm just being petulant. I hadn't seen that story though and it kinda bums me out. It was my favorite of the fan theories.

Well, regardless of what George does, I'm fairly certain that the show is going to bring Benjen back next week to escort Bran and Meera back to the wall. Which would kind of make him Coldhands by proxy.

agreed, since the show never wastes screen time on anyone who doesn't factor in somehow, and i don't remember there being any point to benjen back in season one.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:Was Euron as over-the-top on the books as he is on the show? I don't remember.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Mecca wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Was Euron as over-the-top on the books as he is on the show? I don't remember.

he blew a fucking dragon horn at the kingsmoot

This world hasn't taken good care of guys like him; yet I can't imagine they'd introduce him this late on the game if he wasn't going to have a real impact. What, if anything, from his past travels might give insight to any alliances/angle he could have?

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

durdencommatyler wrote:So this is fun...

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/ ... -thro.html

durdencommatyler wrote:So this is fun...

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/ ... -thro.html

durdencommatyler wrote:So this is fun...

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/ ... -thro.html

cutuphalfdead wrote:

doone wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:So when is Jon going to run into someone that knows Robb legitimized him and named him heir?

did this happen?

cutuphalfdead wrote:In the show, that is.

which episode?

I guess it didn't.

doone wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

doone wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:So when is Jon going to run into someone that knows Robb legitimized him and named him heir?

did this happen?

cutuphalfdead wrote:In the show, that is.

which episode?

I guess it didn't.

did it happen in the books, maybe? or was this just wishful thinking?