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Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 9:37 pm
by wilkins
ISO: Looking for an extra pair to Hartford for friends, PM me, thanks!

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 11:37 pm
by bodysnatcher
wilkins wrote:
broken iris wrote:
wilkins wrote: Will there be openers, douche. :wave:

So... anyone hear any news on this? We are only about 2 weeks out.
I'm guessing it's no openers...
it'd be cool if there were surprise, unannounced openers every night. You wouldn't know who until/if you got there in time to see them. it'd probably cause a fervor for people getting there early to see who their opener was.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 12:09 am
by broken iris
bodysnatcher wrote:
wilkins wrote:
broken iris wrote:
wilkins wrote: Will there be openers, douche. :wave:

So... anyone hear any news on this? We are only about 2 weeks out.
I'm guessing it's no openers...
it'd be cool if there were surprise, unannounced openers every night. You wouldn't know who until/if you got there in time to see them. it'd probably cause a fervor for people getting there early to see who their opener was.
Yeah, but imagine their disappointment when you-know-who walks out.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 11:03 am
by Simple Torture
broken iris wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
wilkins wrote:
broken iris wrote:
wilkins wrote: Will there be openers, douche. :wave:

So... anyone hear any news on this? We are only about 2 weeks out.
I'm guessing it's no openers...
it'd be cool if there were surprise, unannounced openers every night. You wouldn't know who until/if you got there in time to see them. it'd probably cause a fervor for people getting there early to see who their opener was.
Yeah, but imagine their disappointment when you-know-who walks out.
Gob Roberts?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 11:46 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
bodysnatcher wrote:
wilkins wrote:
broken iris wrote:
wilkins wrote: Will there be openers, douche. :wave:

So... anyone hear any news on this? We are only about 2 weeks out.
I'm guessing it's no openers...
it'd be cool if there were surprise, unannounced openers every night. You wouldn't know who until/if you got there in time to see them. it'd probably cause a fervor for people getting there early to see who their opener was.
it would be a cool idea, but night one there might be a ton of people there to see who the opener is, then if it turns out to be someone like ted leo or someone that people werent all that excited about in the past then night 2 no one would show up early for the surprise. but if it was something a bit more crazy like soundgarden or someone bigger then most of their recent openers then the place could be PACKED for the 2nd night

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 11:47 am
by harmless
Simple Torture wrote:
broken iris wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
wilkins wrote:
broken iris wrote:
wilkins wrote: Will there be openers, douche. :wave:

So... anyone hear any news on this? We are only about 2 weeks out.
I'm guessing it's no openers...
it'd be cool if there were surprise, unannounced openers every night. You wouldn't know who until/if you got there in time to see them. it'd probably cause a fervor for people getting there early to see who their opener was.
Yeah, but imagine their disappointment when you-know-who walks out.
Gob Roberts?
Bon Jovi?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 12:02 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
harmless wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
broken iris wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
wilkins wrote:
broken iris wrote:
wilkins wrote: Will there be openers, douche. :wave:

So... anyone hear any news on this? We are only about 2 weeks out.
I'm guessing it's no openers...
it'd be cool if there were surprise, unannounced openers every night. You wouldn't know who until/if you got there in time to see them. it'd probably cause a fervor for people getting there early to see who their opener was.
Yeah, but imagine their disappointment when you-know-who walks out.
Gob Roberts?
Bon Jovi?
i dont know if they will want an opener that sounds like their new material :P

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 12:25 pm
by broken iris
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
i dont know if they will want an opener that sounds like their new material :P
How would you know that, Mr. No Leak Club?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 1:09 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
broken iris wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
i dont know if they will want an opener that sounds like their new material :P
How would you know that, Mr. No Leak Club?
sirens wasnt a leak, so i listened to the album version once and the video version once :D

though i dont think its sounds like bon jovi, just using what others had said for that

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 4:35 pm
by liebzz
I still think that saying a Pearl Jam song sounds like Bon Jovi is like telling Peter Luger's that their steak tastes like a McDonald's hamburger.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:14 pm
by Lament
I'd have no problem with Sirens if it were as good as I'll Be There For You or Always.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:52 pm
by stip
What about bed of roses?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:56 pm
by Lament
Bed of Roses is ok, but I don't think it's as good as the other two. Those first lines bug me. I know for a lot of people that's THE power ballad of all-time, though, so I'm probably wrong.

I dunno, I was too young to know any pre-Always Bon Jovi songs when they were actually popular, so maybe that keeps me from enjoying Bed of Roses. Even Always I thought was unequivocally awful until my best friend/roommate in college went through a really bad break up and used to get a lot of solace from the song. It kinda made me look at the song (and Bon Jovi in general) slightly differently.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:00 pm
by harmless
Lament wrote:Bed of Roses is ok, but I don't think it's as good as the other two. Those first lines bug me. I know for a lot of people that's THE power ballad of all-time, though, so I'm probably wrong.

I dunno, I was too young to know any pre-Always Bon Jovi songs when they were actually popular, so maybe that keeps me from enjoying Bed of Roses. Even Always I thought was unequivocally awful until my best friend/roommate in college went through a really bad break up and used to get a lot of solace from the song. It kinda made me look at the song (and Bon Jovi in general) slightly differently.
1) Maybe you'll cut "Sirens" some slack for the same reasons one day, maybe even after I write my review about why it emotionally impacts me because of the awful, cataclysmic events of my life.

2) How can you like Bon Jovi's ballads and not Bryan Adams' clearly superior ones?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:08 pm
by Lament
harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:Bed of Roses is ok, but I don't think it's as good as the other two. Those first lines bug me. I know for a lot of people that's THE power ballad of all-time, though, so I'm probably wrong.

I dunno, I was too young to know any pre-Always Bon Jovi songs when they were actually popular, so maybe that keeps me from enjoying Bed of Roses. Even Always I thought was unequivocally awful until my best friend/roommate in college went through a really bad break up and used to get a lot of solace from the song. It kinda made me look at the song (and Bon Jovi in general) slightly differently.
1) Maybe you'll cut "Sirens" some slack for the same reasons one day, maybe even after I write my review about why it emotionally impacts me because of the awful, cataclysmic events of my life.

2) How can you like Bon Jovi's ballads and not Bryan Adams' clearly superior ones?
1. I wasn't being insincere in the other threads when I said that I think it's cool that posters who I respect here (I believe I specifically mentioned you and VinylGuy since you were in the chat with me when they released the video) felt a really deep connection to the song. I would never begrudge someone that, and don't think less of someone for enjoying a song for that reason. I still think it's bad though. But people tell me Motorcycle Drive-By is terrible, and I can't listen to that song without having an extreme emotional reaction. So I don't think they're mutually exclusive things.

2. None of Bryan Adams' power ballads are as good as I'll Be There For You or Always. I actually can't think of a single Bryan Adams ballad I would sit through on the radio. Maybe it's just from hearing them all so much growing up, but they do nothing for me. I'll sit through his upbeat stuff, but the ballads grate on me. Actually, scratch that. Star is alright.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:09 pm
by harmless
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:Bed of Roses is ok, but I don't think it's as good as the other two. Those first lines bug me. I know for a lot of people that's THE power ballad of all-time, though, so I'm probably wrong.

I dunno, I was too young to know any pre-Always Bon Jovi songs when they were actually popular, so maybe that keeps me from enjoying Bed of Roses. Even Always I thought was unequivocally awful until my best friend/roommate in college went through a really bad break up and used to get a lot of solace from the song. It kinda made me look at the song (and Bon Jovi in general) slightly differently.
1) Maybe you'll cut "Sirens" some slack for the same reasons one day, maybe even after I write my review about why it emotionally impacts me because of the awful, cataclysmic events of my life.

2) How can you like Bon Jovi's ballads and not Bryan Adams' clearly superior ones?
1. I wasn't being insincere in the other threads when I said that I think it's cool that posters who I respect here (I believe I specifically mentioned you and VinylGuy since you were in the chat with me when they released the video) felt a really deep connection to the song. I would never begrudge someone that, and don't think less of someone for enjoying a song for that reason. I still think it's bad though. But people tell me Motorcycle Drive-By is terrible, and I can't listen to that song without having an extreme emotional reaction. So I don't think they're mutually exclusive things.

2. None of Bryan Adams' power ballads are as good as I'll Be There For You or Always. I actually can't think of a single Bryan Adams ballad I would sit through on the radio. Maybe it's just from hearing them all so much growing up, but they do nothing for me. I'll sit through his upbeat stuff, but the ballads grate on me. Actually, scratch that. Star is alright.
Check my post about "Everything I Do" in the LB thread.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:14 pm
by Lament
harmless wrote:Check my post about "Everything I Do" in the LB thread.
I'll have to listen to it again, but I don't doubt your statement. Isn't the solo in that song like six minutes long though?

Also, wasn't that song #1 in your country for like 473 weeks in a row?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:17 pm
by harmless
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Check my post about "Everything I Do" in the LB thread.
I'll have to listen to it again, but I don't doubt your statement. Isn't the solo in that song like six minutes long though?

Also, wasn't that song #1 in your country for like 473 weeks in a row?
The first solo is actually quite short. But there's an extended solo in the end part of the album version which is longer, but still not that long. I don't generally listen to the guitars on stuff that carefully, so I was surprised how free of self-indulgence it was when I went back just now.

And yes, it was. It was ridiculous. Almost everyone here is turned off the song for exactly that reason. I must be the only person left who loves it. Oh, and my dad.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:20 pm
by dimejinky99
I'm this far away from asking for $5 donations from the good people of RM to get to Brooklyn.

Shit is simply not happening.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:32 pm
by Lament
harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Check my post about "Everything I Do" in the LB thread.
I'll have to listen to it again, but I don't doubt your statement. Isn't the solo in that song like six minutes long though?

Also, wasn't that song #1 in your country for like 473 weeks in a row?
The first solo is actually quite short. But there's an extended solo in the end part of the album version which is longer, but still not that long. I don't generally listen to the guitars on stuff that carefully, so I was surprised how free of self-indulgence it was when I went back just now.

And yes, it was. It was ridiculous. Almost everyone here is turned off the song for exactly that reason. I must be the only person left who loves it. Oh, and my dad.
Rate the tightness of his jeans in the music video.

:)