Red Mosquito

BurtReynolds wrote:Jokes on Twitter is one thing, but some of the other stuff might be fucked up if true.

What other stuff?

I dunno exactly. He seems to have had a very weird interaction with an actual pedophile over some child porn, but I'm not sure what is fact yet.

This Gunn one is tricky. The jokes are clearly in very, very bad taste and intended to offend, but it reeks of the purity test that is wrecking havoc on online culture right now.

It’s not tricky at all. They were jokes. He didn’t do anything. God help us if any of us become famous and someone digs up RM.

Bi_3 wrote:This Gunn one is tricky. The jokes are clearly in very, very bad taste and intended to offend, but it reeks of the purity test that is wrecking havoc on online culture right now.

I don't think he has spoken out about being fired. Rumors are Disney makes you sign a contract requiring your purity past, present and future. I think that's stupid, but I guess it's standard protocol at Disney.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:It’s not tricky at all. They were jokes. He didn’t do anything. God help us if any of us become famous and someone digs up RM.

I can't wait until the day that my comment about God sending all holocaust victims to hell regardless of whether Mormons retroactively baptize them or not comes to light for my family and friends to read!

B wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:This Gunn one is tricky. The jokes are clearly in very, very bad taste and intended to offend, but it reeks of the purity test that is wrecking havoc on online culture right now.

I don't think he has spoken out about being fired. Rumors are Disney makes you sign a contract requiring your purity past, present and future. I think that's stupid, but I guess it's standard protocol at Disney.

RDJ is certainly no angel. He has (had?) a felony drug conviction.

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:This Gunn one is tricky. The jokes are clearly in very, very bad taste and intended to offend, but it reeks of the purity test that is wrecking havoc on online culture right now.

I don't think he has spoken out about being fired. Rumors are Disney makes you sign a contract requiring your purity past, present and future. I think that's stupid, but I guess it's standard protocol at Disney.

RDJ is certainly no angel. He has (had?) a felony drug conviction.

His contract, the original one, at least, predates Disney's purchase of Marvel.

I'm not defending Disney. Assholes can probably make very good movies, and even if you don't believe that, people who used to be assholes should be allowed to change.

Is it seriously even a question if assholes can make good movies? Really? Pretty sure there’s a DEEP history of huge assholes who were/are incredible artists.

Missing the point

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Missing the point

am I though? people are ready to lynch this guy. he is neither a monster nor a particularly talented person. all the blowback seems overboard on both counts.

This isn’t about James Gunn. It’s about an alt-right troll weaponizing outrage to destroy a liberal’s career. It’s about a company capitulating to that and emboldening it. It’s about dark jokes becoming an offense worthy of taking away someone’s career. This has so many far-reaching implications; thinking it’s just about a mediocre director not making a movie is myopic and dismissive.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Missing the point

am I though? people are ready to lynch this guy. he is neither a monster nor a particularly talented person. all the blowback seems overboard on both counts.

This isn’t about James Gunn. It’s about an alt-right troll weaponizing outrage to destroy a liberal’s career. It’s about a company capitulating to that and emboldening it. It’s about dark jokes becoming an offense worthy of taking away someone’s career. This has so many far-reaching implications; thinking it’s just about a mediocre director not making a movie is myopic and dismissive.

I agree.

However, I will say, just as you mentioned in GD an internal conflict about gun control in America, I hold (what I'm assuming is) a similar conflict, internally, about the role of humor and consequence as well. This is a nuanced issue with no clear cut correct answer.

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Missing the point

am I though? people are ready to lynch this guy. he is neither a monster nor a particularly talented person. all the blowback seems overboard on both counts.

This isn’t about James Gunn. It’s about an alt-right troll weaponizing outrage to destroy a liberal’s career. It’s about a company capitulating to that and emboldening it. It’s about dark jokes becoming an offense worthy of taking away someone’s career. This has so many far-reaching implications; thinking it’s just about a mediocre director not making a movie is myopic and dismissive.

I agree.

However, I will say, just as you mentioned in GD an internal conflict about gun control in America, I hold (what I'm assuming is) a similar conflict, internally, about the role of humor and consequence as well. This is a nuanced issue with no clear cut correct answer.

I disagree with this very strongly

I really wish I weren’t at work because I have sooo much to say. Just keep in mind trag: he made those jokes ten fucking years ago.